Froch v Mundine

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ed., Jan 2, 2009.


  1. Jambo

    Jambo Active Member Full Member

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    Because hes been protected for so long, and he hasn't faced anyone of note. An ancient robin Reid doesn't count. You have to be really making an effort to face genuine prime contenders and top 10 fighters to get a shot.

    Look at guys like Yuri Gamboa. He will be getting a shot very soon, and is FARRRRR more dangerous an opponent than Froch. Difference is, he takes risk, because he has the ability to back it up.

    Froch doesn't, he sucks.

    Making assumptions about him being dodged was a silly thing to do on your behalf. I'll forgive you this time, just don't do it ever again.
     
  2. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not after an alphabet soup debate, but there's a big difference between the legitimacy of beating the highest available contender for a strap that's become vacant because someone has moved up in weight and some second tier title that dates back to 2004 or 2005 so an organisation can get more sanctioning fees.

    I disagree with your comments about National and C'wealth titles. Ask any domestic boxer who has won one what it means to them. Hell I know a certain boxer from around our town that is still cut he didn't get up in a state title.

    Froch will land big fights or at the very least, decent defences. Him getting the WBC strap ensures that. Taylor, Dirrell, Ward etc are all rated highly.

    Essentially I don't disagree with great deals in what you've said. Froch is largely untested. But for mine, it hasn't been for lack of trying. His career is on the asendency, while Anthony had the perfect opportunity to face Kessler and ran away. If Froch does the same, he deserves flak. But at this point in time, he looks like he's trying to land fights, not avoid them.
     
  3. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    Spot on in my opinion mate.
     
  4. Loggo

    Loggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No,Jambo thinks Froch sucks,after watching the Jean Pascal fight i`d put him about 4th best suppermiddleweight in the world,who the **** is Gamboa?Anyway he`s warned me about making "assumptions".Better not then because he`ll threaten to get his **** out on me.
     
  5. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :blood

    Dunno if you're taking the **** or not, but if not, youtube him.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mundine would school the **** outta Froch IMO.
     
  7. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch beats Mundine yesterday, today, tomorrow whenever, because he has balls and Mundine does not.

    Raw ability, talent , athleticism and Mundine is fantastic, yet he has no faith in himself, a punch to the temple way back when broke his heart. He fights afraid now, he makes Hector Camacho look ruthless.

    I do have concerns about Froch, but his chin is not one ofthem, can you imagine Mundine standing up from the shots he took against Pascal ? Thought not.

    The way i see it, Mundine cannot afford to make a mistake against a puncher like Froch, and at some point over 36 minutes he would. Then its over.

    He beat Green , but who is he in world terms ?
    He beat Soliman, he lost over here too.
    He ran like he had Kesslers wallet.
    Sciaca ..........jesus
    Ottke .....Otkke ko'd him ( a novice him, so that can be forgiven and forgotten imo )

    I hope Froch does fight him, while we are at it why not have England V Aus , what would your matches be ?
     
  8. Jambo

    Jambo Active Member Full Member

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    Once again though its about the fighter they beat but, not the belt. I wouldnt' consider Echols and Soliman to be second tier fighters at the time Choc fought them... Would you? The belt to me really means little, especially when they didn't beat the champ, its an extremely similar scenario.

    I think you misunderstood this part. I said in the big scheme of things, meaning on the world stage. For world class contenders, these minor titles don't really mean a lot. I would rather see a young fighter taking on top 10 fighters and winning, then going after some of these minor titles, which often times for world class fighters are quite easy to obtain.

    These types of belts are really something for the top guys in the domestic circuit to be aiming for, and i have no doubt it means a lot to such fighters.

    Fair enough, but at the same time, you cant' give him credit for something he hasn't done yet, especially looking at his precedant so far within his career.

    You know as well as anyone i am no Mundine fan, I think his ambition leaves a LOT to be desired.

    At the same time, so does Frochs thus far, i'm really not ready to start praising him, when he has been pretty well protected himself.

    We'll see how brave Froch becomes when he faces some elite level fighters and gets beaten. Something tells me not quite so much.

    Its easy to bag Choc, but the guy has fought some tough opponents, in Echols, Ottke, Kessler, Green, Soliman.
     
  9. Jambo

    Jambo Active Member Full Member

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    Sucks like you do working the gloryhole.
     
  10. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    I just cant agree with this statement. It has taken him a very long time to grow these so called balls. Six and a bit years and he's only just opening his mouth wanting to fight some major players :lol::lol:
     
  11. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch beats mundine 100 times out of 100

    Mundine should retire but i hope he doesn't

    by the way who is "Crazy Kim"
     
  12. pecks

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    Fair play teke.
    While Mundine was taking on Ottke in his 11th fight, Froch was taking on Dmitry ****ing Adomovich who boasts a frightening 10 - 7 - 1 record.

    While Mundine may be a big ***** now, he did have a good go earlier on.
     
  13. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    Thats the name your mother has adopted from the Tongan rugby team.
     
  14. the beaver

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    Ok will u bet me 100/1 Mundine if they fight??

    :lol::lol:
     
  15. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah i will, it would be easy money, mundine is the worst champ of all time