73 Foreman vs 92 Bowe

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  1. Muchmoore

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    The thing is, Bowe simply couldn't stay at long range and use his physical advantages/jab to win. He'd do it for half a round here, a round there but then he'd negate his physical advantages and go toe to toe in a streetfight. It was able to work against Holyfield who was small and not a big puncher but would kill him against George.
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Perhaps I'm the only one, but to me Foreman's jab seemed to be more polished in his second career. He did not appear to incorporate much jabbing during the 70's and the jabs he threw were not the strait stiff jabs that Golata was tagging Bowe with, or that Holyfield was able to land either.
     
  3. Holmes' Jab

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    He had a chance to outbox George, but I think the pre-Rumble version gets to Bowe inside the half way mark of a 15-rounder.

    TKO6.
     
  4. MRBILL

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    Foreman's jab was not fully developed in the 70s..... Foreman used it, but not as good as in his later years / comeback to boxing of say 1990.... The 70s Foreman threw everything wide or looping.... Foreman was much more complete and sharper in his early 40s....

    Bowe's jab and quick right cross was always top-notch in quality.... Plus, Bowe was good on the inside for such a huge dude..... If Bowe doesn't get tagged solid by Foreman early on, it would get rough / hard for Foreman midway to late in the fight....

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  5. mr. magoo

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    I agree.

    As preposterous as it may sound on the surface, I truly believe that Foreman, in some ways, was an improved fighter in his comeback. No, he was not as devastating in the early rounds as the 70's version, and truth be told, there were some fighters that a 70's Foreman would have been better suited to beating than a 90's George. But at the end of the day, I do feel that he was fundamentally more sound in his balded rebirth.

    While Foreman from 1970-1976 had the power and aggression to utterly destroy fighters like Norton, Lyle and Frazier early, Foreman from 1989 to maybe 1994, was more mature mentally, had a far better defense, a more polished and frequently used jab, did not waste punches, had more accuracy and paced himself when onslaughts were not necessary. I think a 1991 Foreman could have gone 12 or 15 rounds with a 1974 Muhammad Ali by virtue of his new found conservative practices, defense and utilization of the jab. Ali would still take a decision of course, but this would be a tougher match. On the flipside, I also can't see a 1974 Foreman going 12 rounds with the real deal. I think he gasses himself out trying to clobber Holyfield early, and by the 7th or 8th round, Evander's heart and conditioning starts to take over enroute to a late stoppage.
     
  6. Bokaj

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    I agree that Foreman made better use of his jab after his comeback. But even young Foreman used it to great effect at times (but too seldom), for example he set up Frazier for the heavy artillery with it. Kept him off balance and then teed off.
     
  7. apollack

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    It would be a phenomenal war. Bowe had the better overall consistent attack and condition, but Foreman had the better power and chin. If the fight goes long, I give the edge to Bowe, but I suspect that Foreman was so damn strong that Bowe's chin would not be able to handle his brand of clubbing power and he'd go out. But that said, Bowe showed the heart of a lion against Golota, so who knows.
     
  8. GPater11093

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    i think a 73 foreman would take hi out around the 8th
     
  9. godking

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    Bowe would'nt have taken the fight in perhaps the most puncher laden HW era Bowe suspiciously found a way to avode/duck almost all of them.
     
  10. crippet

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    Foreman easy KO within 4 rounds.

    Bowes peak was 1 fight which his apologists use as a pointer to him winning, then take fights spread all over Georges career as pointers to George loosing - laughable really.

    If Bowe went to war ala his best performance against smallyfield, against George, he would be knocked into orbit, hell Herbie Hide nearly had him out..
     
  11. Casey91

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    Foreman wins by K.O. before round 4.who did bowe fight that can dignify he could take a power punch from George.Holyfield's punch don't compare to George's at all.
     
  12. MRBILL

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    I love Foreman, but, he was flawed in '73 when he clobbered a smaller and weaker Joe Frazier and some clustered **** named Jose Roman in Japan..........

    The Bowe who was hammering Bruce Seldon, Pierre Coetzer and Evander Holy in '92 was peaked at 24 / 25 yrs of age and had all his skills intact.........

    Bowe of '92 BEATS Foreman of 1973......... IMO!!!

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  13. Casey91

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    well yes joe was weaker than George but there wasn't alot of people who exactly matched george in power,another thing,so what if joe wasn't exactly big I personally think joe's left hook was better than any punch bowe could throw.I think you are right when you say george had flaws like defense and stamina but still he didn't fight anyone like Big George.
     
  14. MRBILL

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    Bowe's right cross was WICKED when it landed clean upside a dude's head in 1991 and 1992....... I think Bowe's cross coming from a dude 232 to 246 pounds during that time was as hard if not harder than Frazier's primed left-hook......

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  15. Casey91

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    Yes his right straight was great and he carried more weight but I think Joe could drop someone who weighs around 230 with a flush left hook easily but thats kind of getting off topic,still I just do not think you can compare someone like Big George to Bowe,we never saw anyone punch Bowe with a power punch like george could deliver.Bowe had a good jab and power but it just doesn't match up to George.