Roach: Fedor has no technique when it comes to striking!

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This is nonsense. As great as Fedor is, it can easily be argued that we can objectively assess him when it would be highly unlikely he would be able to do that to himself.

    I think people are being sensitive or at least wearing blinkers. It is clear to see that Fedors punching technique is questionable. Just because he is so good doesn't mean his technique is flawless. His striking has been successful and devastating against certain fighters. It's his wrestling, subbing etc that is the genuinely impressive side of him. He always finds an answer but he could still improve.

    Everyone has a right to assess Fedor, as long as its logical. I sure as hell think that arguably the best boxing coach in the world can assess his striking. Roach is right but I disagree with how strong his words are. To say no technique is silly but technically he could be refined.

    Fedor doesn't have a worthy rival at the moment but there have been rivals (Couture) and there will be rivals (Lesnar or Mir).

    You would be wise not to say Fedor doesn't have to change anything or like Bolt bettered Johnson, someone could come and better Fedor because Fedor left stones unturned and didn't do everything he could to be the best he could.
     
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    Still it's not about if he can get better or not, ofcourse he can become better. But I'm sure you need to understand his style of fighting before you can try to improve it
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    than he can himself
    . And Roach for example has little to no clue about Fedors style of striking, otherwise he wouldn't come with such an idiotic statement.
     
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    Griip President of TFE Full Member

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    Yeah I'd say so. First time I watched that fight I thought it was a very good fight with a chance of Crocop winning the decision. Second and third time I watched it I changed my mind though, even if Crocop gave him a great fight both on the ground and standing up. I think i've seen all of his fights but can't remember really who gave him the best challenge, hard to say when he beat them all :p
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    So you think Fedor is the only person in the world who can make himself better? That is ridiculous.

    I understand Fedor has a particular style which he believes is right but it is still perfectly logical for Roach and myself to disagree with his punching technique and believe he could achieve more with some technical adjustments. There is nothing to gauge who understands Fedors style enough to make an assessment as it is all opinion. Many great fighters couldn't understand their work. Jack Dempsey wasn't very clued about what went into his style and he said so when he went about writing a book on how to box.

    Roach went too far in his assessment. I agree with that but he is just trying to stir ****.

    Couture was a rival. That isn't up for discussion. Even Fedor recognised that. Couture aged like fine wine, much like Hopkins. Sure at one point he wasnt as touted but at a particualr stage he was Fedors biggest rival. I don't think Nog and Cro would beat Couture.

    Nevertheless, back to our discussion. I find your argument totally illogical.
     
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    Griip President of TFE Full Member

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    hmm.. happened to edit instead of quote :happy well there it is.

    Stop implying I'm saying stuff I'm not, thank you.
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    What I said still stands. Your argument is silly one as I have explained.
     
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    Griip President of TFE Full Member

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    You changed nothing in the last 2 posts concerning the discussion, just so you know.



    Bring it on.
     
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    fedor may not have good boxing fundamentals but...**** this isnt boxing and he isnt a boxer his style works execellent 4 him so u cant knock it. ps im rooting 4 AA!
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Not true. Your premise has been ridiculous from the start. It smells of fanboy to me. I made an assessment of Fedors technique. An assessment I am fully entitled to make. You disagreeing is as I said - ridiculous.

    Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect. Feel free to write whatever and I'll return my thoughts.
     
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    Yeah and neither Klitchko has the submission techniques either.
     
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    The history of MMA is pretty much 'what works'. It has been a sorting out process.
     
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    :deal:deal

    In MMA here is no "technically correct", its what works. What works IS technically correct. Fedor's is displaying poor Kung Fu technique... then again he's not doing Kung Fu.
     
  13. FINITO

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    He's 100% correct. That's why they resort to humping on the floor.
     
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    Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect? Feel free to write whatever? And you'll return your thoughts?

    :rofl
     
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    Imagine if those hooks were short and compact, there would have been no need for a submission. Roach is right, that's horrible as far as technique goes. He gets away with it though, so it's not much of an issue.