You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

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Really? A small child, when climbing on your back the right way, can choke a man quite a bit. I recall my niece on my back while playing and telling her that she has to hold on differently because she was choking me.

A 120lb man could definitely choke out anyone in the world, providing he was skilled enough.

 

I was 230 with HS wrestling, got choked by a 135lb black belt in about a minute.

 

Yes, easily.

If you think otherwise, you have never stepped foot in a grappling gym, period.

The takedown would require some work, but you said even when they were on the ground Tyson would be "too strong"; that is just flat out ****ing stupid.

I believe "pick them up and snap them like a twig" was the exact phrase; if you believe that you should go try and grapple the smallest person at your local BJJ academy.

There has never been, is not now, and will never be, a man too strong to be outgrappled.

 

The **** was this shite bumped for?

 

They go toe to toe, they leave on a stretcher

 

An MMA fighter who goes toe to toe against a boxer is an idiot. Tim sylvia is one of them who tried to fight ray mercer with his striking. An MMA fighter who is smart enough won't go toe to toe with a boxer but instead take him down and beat his azz on the ground.

Kimbo Slice who is a known striker took mercer down and beat him on the ground. That's what i expect an MMA fighter to do against a boxer in an MMA fight.

 

Some of the people in this thread are so beyond dumb it makes myhead hurt. Including the OP. (Or should I say, especially the OP)

 

Very, very impressed you lasted that long, actually. Seriously, not meant to be an insult, that's actually pretty good. (Unless he was just toying with you...)

 

Well if they started from the feet he could have kept it standing for a lot of that period, which would still be very impressive.

If you lasted that long actually on the ground, I'm also very impressed; wrestlers tend to do well in BJJ if they focus on the right things.

Also, I hate to do this, but was it a competitive or close to it match, like was the intensity level around 80+%? Otherwise he might have just been taking his time. Again, I don't want to downplay what you did, because it's pretty impressive.

BTW; if it was on the ground for that long, I bet it was a triangle choke. That seems to be what wrestlers get caught with the most at first.

 

Well, true. I'm assuming it wasn't a competitive match as, unless he was at the very least a Brown Belt, he wouldn't be competitively grappling with an instructor. I'm assuming it was an exhibition of the instructor for his gym.

I know my instructor outgrapples me with ease. He's not even a guy like Jacare, Drysdale, or Ribero...he's a 7th degree BJJ Black Belt, but he's in his mid 50's and about 5'7. I'm 6' and am much physically stronger then him, and I have a grappling backround in BJJ, and he still is able to manipulate me with relative ease.

I can't believe we're even having this thread just over 16 years after Royce Gracie's coming out to the world with BJJ.

 

I'm sure this s a great discussion and all

but the typing style of one of the sides of the discussion is giving me a headache.

Ugh

 

nobody seez this cept u because ur a moron

lmao @ your brain

 

james shut up