Does Dawson present a more difficult challenge, to Calzaghe, then Kessler did?

Yes. Kessler was a great test, but Dawson is bigger, Calzaghe is older, and just add it all up and this is as least an equal test, likely greater.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Best rating for Setanta (better tha HAtton-Castillo) before Joes fights against Hopkins (second) and Jones (first)
Over 50K ppl and a live gate over 10M $ at 1 am
The ratings for HBO weren't spectacular but no as bad as many said.
HBO only invested under 2M $ for the fight, and it had ~1,6M viewers. More than every HBO WCB fight in 2008 (exclude Calzaghe-Hopkins and DLH-Forbes) or SHowtime-FIght e.g. Cotto-Margarito doubleheader, Mosley-Mayorga, Dawson-Tarver.....
DLH-Forbes had ~2M viewers (10M!!!! $ for fee and promoting-costs).

 

Then its strange you guys seems have so much "knowlegde" about their skills in the ring:roll:

 

kessler v calzaghe was a european fight in europe .
american tv was a side issue in the fight.

the fight was arranged for mainly the european market not the american market.

the fight itself was high atmosphere, good spectacle and a good fight, that it did not do well in the american market is ca;zaghe`s fault ?

did not mention jones that i remember , but again calzaghe got 10,000 in attendence for both fights , all having to travle to america and just like hopkins it was the american side that drew ****.

IMO it has nothing to do with showtime/hbo the reason dawson does not draw.

hbo outside dlh has tiny boxing numbers and american fans are seemingly deserting in droves.
armchair fans dawson has plenty off, fans willing to attend his fights , he has virtually none.

we will see how dawson v tarver does in attendence.

dawson is not alone.


i see the arguement that america has a big talent pool so some fighters dont get followed.

but no american heavy has a big folowing at the moment.
dj flores and cunningham are small hall fighters

hopkins and dawson and jones combined cant draw anyone

taylor is a medium size draw

pavlik is a draw, we will see if his fans remain loyal after the loss , i beleive they will

i saw williams have tv viewing figures of 166,000 in 2008 when he stepped up to middle to fight the trialhorse

dlh still by far the biggest draw in america, in fact if you combine the rest , you get dlh numbers.

bradley is small hall.

malinagii v ngodju and ndou got maybe 800 fans each time.

america is still a huge boxing country, produces by far and away the most fighters , but tv fans and paying public fans , IMO you are living in the past and not seeing the current situation for what it is at the moment.

all this will change when a talented young american heavy comes along and he will be a mega star and boxing will come back to the fore in the americans public eye.

 

The American public knows that the heavyweight division isn't the big draw anymore, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. proved that. And yes Dawson fighting on Showtime has something to do with him not being popular, basically he doesn't receive any media hype what so ever. In your last post you said that a Dawson-Calzaghe wouldn't recieive any attention and it wouldn't be a big money fight for Calzaghe. YOU KNOW a Dawson-Calzaghe match would recieive a lot of media attention, more so than Kessler-Calzaghe. And Calzaghe would certainly get his moneys worth if HBO and Gary Shaw is backing it up, but Calzaghe doesn't want the match. The Dawson-Tarver II match is going to do horrible because it's a meaningless fight, once Dawson fights someone more meaningful (Calzaghe, Glen Johnson, Tavoris Cloud, Hopkins, etc) than he will get the attention he deserves. Dawson fighting on HBO is a start. It's not about Dawson being unpopular now, it's about Dawson being popular in the future and he will be if he continues winning.

 

IMO the american public has lost intrest in boxing.

hardcore fans are keeping boxing alive in america, casual fans at the moment are virtually non exsistent, because the fact is american tv companys have frozen the casual fan out.

i never said dawson v calzaghe would not receive any attention, i said why is dawson perceived to be more lucrative a fight for calzaghe than kessler.

kessler had a whole country backing him, dawson has a few hundred fans and if dawson fights in the other mans backyard he will have maybe 20 to 30 fans following him .

as to shaw and dawson ,they will have to buy the shot at calzaghe by putting up say $8 to $10 million for calzaghe alone .

they make a loss , but hope to recoup on the back of it.

thats the way boxing has always worked, when a young up and commer wants a shot at the old fighter who is the cash cow.

i have said many many times , dawson is calzaghe`s hardest fight at the moment, but that calzaghe can earn the same fighting" fill in the blank" as he can fighting dawson, so it is up to team dawson to make an offer calzaghe that tempts him.

dzindurek is in the same boat as dawson , as are many other fighters.
it`s not fair , but sadly it is the way boxing is.