Thrilla in Manilla Round 15

If you had that fight by 1 round for Ali you must be new to this ****.

Frazier needed a KO without question & if Ali didnt have the strength to finish Joe then I think he sees it out with his jab alone, Frazier was all done, it was just hate fuelled adrenalin keeping him going.

 

ive often thought about this,i see it goin like this:frazier marching forward throwin whatever he can with an exhausted ali clinching as soon as joe got within arms reach then on the break hitting joe with a quick 1-2 before claiming him again,i see this pattern playin out for at least 2:30 of the round with both fighters near collapsing holding each other til the final bell.

 

It was a very close fight so there's no need to defend your scoring. Joe did need a KO though. I personally think the 15th would have been three minutes of holding, leaning and seeing out the clock, from both fighters who had little left. Ali winning on a UD.

 

You're probably right. That avatar is a classic. Looks like an old 70's schoolboy never like Emlyn.

 

Fraizer was way behide on the real scorecards though.

I think round 15 would follow the same patter as rounds 12-14 did. With Ali landed the jab, and messing up Joe's face more.

 

Cheers. I want to meet the wearer of that shirt. :yep

 

Frazier would need a miracle to win. He was finished after the 14th. One tough fighter. He was battered in the 13th and 14th and still kept on coming. He was one underrated fighter on this forum when you see the likes of True Writer and cent dick spreading their crap.

 

I never underrate him. I just think Head to Head against the greats...Well..dont make me say it..:dealI know you guys are having your moment here about his classic fight:think

 

About what? That he is a great fighter and matches up well with a lot of other great Heavyweights.

 

I'll go against the grain and say Frazier KO. If you could remember as soon as Ali got off of his stool, he collapsed. It wasn't some sort of celebration or relief, he just flat out collapsed. Frazier had more in the tank and was still capable of fighting where as Ali was ready to fall any second from exhaustion. In my opinion, one left hook would have ended the fight in favor of Frazier winning by KO.

Of course having your only good eye closed didn't help Frazier and Futch didn't make a bad decision. I just think it's not as clear cut as most think.

 

Frazier's own cornerman says he no longer had that hook. Noway Futch is pulling out a warrior like Frazier without fantastic reason, no matter how much we might want to think the other way.

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Just for good measure here's the ref's comments. He was thinking of stopping it himself and believes he would have next round.

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As for Ali ready to fall from exhaustion and Frazier having more in the tanl, welll

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First of all he still had the hook. It most certainly wasn't the same but it was there. Ali did in fact collapse after he got off of his stool after the fight was called because of exhaustion. If he collapsed during round 15 it would have been a TKO victory for Frazier if Ali couldn't continue in which he likely wouldn't have been nor would he want to.

 

Ali was ALWAYS continuing, anything else is wishful thinking. He only collapsed upon hearing the fight was over. Bell rings, he goes out and gets the job done, simple. This is Ali and he was ready to go. Just look at round 14.

Did you even watch the vids? The ref was ready to call it off and Benton, his cornerman, says he no longer had the hook and his punches were slaps.

I know exactly what people would be saying if Frazier went out and did get hurt in a worst case scenario.

It's either a very likely Ali stoppage or simply an Ali decision.