George Foreman 73 Vs Lennox Lewis 95

First of all, I'm not "dwelling" on anything. Secondly, when a person says that a fighter won in either decisive or indecisive fashion, they typically mean that the outcome was either clear or it wasn't. Now I ask you, what wasn't decisive about a 10 count KO? was there any controversy involved? Was Lyle the victom of bad officiating or a premature stoppage? I think not. When a fighter knocks out another fighter, the verdict is about as decisive as it gets, regardless of what kind of hell he had to go through to reach that outcome...

 

Moorer was floored in round 2 of the first fight with Holyfield, the fight where Evander suffered a 'heart attack'. In the second fight Holyfield put Moorer on the canvas no less than 5 times.

I just don't think Moorer held a heavyweight shot too well. His chin was far from iron.

 

1. Holyfield did not suffer a heart attack. He merely had a heart condition.

2. I'm not calling Moorer's chin "Iron". But, I think its fair to say that he could take a decent punch. Cooper, Stewart, and Holyfield were all men who could crack during the early 90's, and Moorer survived all of them.

 

he also survived tua.

 

It would help if people followed an entire discussion before throwing in their $0.02.

 

i saw your point. yes there's some merit in going to those wars with heavy handed hitters like holyfield. however, NO ONE, with a decent chin, gets wiped out in 39 seconds. that just destroys credibility. i don't care how hard tua hits or what the circumstances are (besides drugs / ill health) - 39 SECONDS is 39 SECONDS.

 

I want to post another viewpoint to this fight without any conclusion on my part:

Foreman 1973 had boxed 87 complete rounds, that's 2.2 completed rounds per fight.

When he met Ali, Ali had boxed 276 completed rounds, that's 6.1 completed rounds per fight. You could say that Ali's stamina was much more proven and Ali's experience was 3x bigger. We all know what happened: Foreman lost his stamina (in an even more gross fashion than Wlad vs Puritty) and was schooled by the more experienced Ali (like Wlad was schooled by the more experienced Puritty). Of course it's possible that Foreman has been drugged, but this is worth another thread.

Before his fight with Muhammad Ali, Foreman faced only the following opponents worth mentioning: Norton, Frazier, Peralta, Chuvalo and Kirkman. ALL of them are smaller than Lewis. All of them are OLDER than Foreman. ALL of them are 20-30 lbs LIGHTER than Lewis. Peralta is a natural cruiser (= incomparable to Lewis) and both fights aren't even heavyweight fights by out standards.

In other words: Foreman I has not faced ANYTHING similar to Lennox. Even more so he hasn't faced (his entire career) anything similar to Wlad but that is another thread.

The surest thing we can say: There is nothing in Foreman I's record that could hint at a win over Lennox. In fact, he couldn't KO Peralta, an opponent with a similar record like Lewis.

 

He was past his best at that point, but i agree to certain degree: Shavers' and Cooney's quick erasion of Norton wasn't just the fact that Norton was old; he never took a punch that well really.



Also, while he survived Cooper, he was nearly out in the opening minute of the fight (similar to the Tua fight), and was knocked down another one or two times if i remember correct. He won the fight and it was a great one, but Moorer was badly hurt by basically any punch that got through. Then Holyfield, a good but not great puncher knocks him down once when he wasn't 100%, and knocks him down several times in the rematch when he wasn't ill. Followed by that first bout, Foreman not only scores the first and only knockout victory over a significant opponent during his second career, but also the first and last one-punch knockout of his career.

Moorer was a skilled boxer with good speed, power and an akward southpaw style. But his chin mostly certainly was his weakness and by a large margin.

 

Yeah I know it wasn't an actual heart attack, hence the reason why I wrote it as 'heart attack'.

I really don't think Moorer could take a decent shot at heavyweight. The fact that Foreman knocked him out with one punch says more for Moorer's chin than anything else.

 

Jimmy Young, now that was a spoiler...

 

theres the possibility of Foreman gassing out in 5 to 8 rounds (like the fight vs ali) plus lewis defence is a lot better and he would take advantage of the wild shots foreman threw if this happened Lewis by ko in 10 rnds alternatively if foreman caught him flush it would be early probably 2nd rd and lewis aint getting up

 

On the contrary, I think that it says more about George's punching ability, then it does anything else, and besides, a fighter who is cought at the right place at the right time can be kayoed, especially if he is facing a big puncher and is walking in towards him showing little or no respect.

 

well then, you might want to explain how John Ruiz - a prime durable heavyweight, who was only stopped once in 53 fights, only lasted 19 seconds with guess who......David Tua.....And was polished off in exactly half the time that an old Moorer on the comeback trail was...

 

Like Lewis against McCall, for instance?

Hey Magoo, Foreman's a powerful puncher but he's not a 'spark your lights out' kinda guy. He clubs you down. He won't knock Lewis out with one punch.

 

What about it?

I wouldn't favor him to do it either, but how do you know for a fact that he wouldn't?