Does Jeffries belong in the top 30 of all time?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yea or nay?
     
    cross_trainer, Jun 23, 2007
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    yes
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Jim? Of course! I have him in the top ten. Was there a tougher man in possesion of the heavyweight title? Ever?
     
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    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Absolutely,

    Jim Jeffries won the heavyweight title from another all time great in Bob Fitszimmons, with only some 11 fights under his belt, and defended it 7 times successfully. He defeated a number of good fighters such as, Tom Sharkey, Peter Jackson, James Corbett, Bob Fitszimmons and several others. He was a tremendous athlete and physical specimen, especially given the standards of his day. What's more, he showed great courage in his efforts against Jack Johnson upon returning to the ring after a 6 year layoff.

    James Jeffries will always have a place on my top 10 list....
     
    mr. magoo, Jun 23, 2007
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  5. Muchmoore

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    Jeffries is a lock for the top 20. Hes around 15th in my opinion.
     
    Muchmoore, Jun 23, 2007
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Probably outside the top ten but comfortably inside the top twenty,imo.
     
    mcvey, Jun 23, 2007
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    janitor VIP Member

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    I have him in my top 5.

    He was as dominant as any heavyweigfht champion in history. In a fight to the finish he would be virtualy unbeatable.
     
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  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Good lord. Top 30?? He's borderline top ten!!!
     
    Zakman, Jun 23, 2007
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  10. UpWithEvil

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    CT and I have had this discussion before, but I always think of Jeffries as the original prototype for the modern MMA fighter. Jeffries, who was just slightly larger than current UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture, may have dominated this new sport to the same degree he dominated boxing.

    But of course, you can't be blamed for doubting if the modern era could forge an iron man like Jeffries.
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    His sparring with Roeber was apparently filmed. (Of course, you probably already knew that. :D)

    Now THERE would be an amazing little piece of history.

    Incidentally, have you ever heard of William Miller? A sort of proto-Jeffries...5'10" 195 lbs., Australian champion in bareknuckle pugilism and one of the best in the world in gloved (point) boxing during the early reign of John L Sullivan...but also among the 3-5 best Greco-Roman wrestlers in the world, accomplished in gymnastics, and capable of a 200 lb. bent press (using pre-Sandow technique).
     
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  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    #11 for me personally.
     
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  13. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I'll be honest, I've never rated far enough back to count him. He is not in my top 13, but I don't think he is far behind.
     
    rekcutnevets, Jun 23, 2007
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    :thumbsup
     
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