Calzaghe "slapping" B-hop around

The Calzaghe fanboys have as much 'class' as racism to promote a fight, feigning injury to get a breather and save yourself from getting KO'd, headbutting, running, not punching or not crediting your opponent with beating you.

Oh ****! Wrong way round wasn't it.

 

I find it so sad that people like yourself actually go to the bother of researching these miniscule "facts" about someone you obviusly dislike. You should try getting out more and and attempt to pull some ladies- trust me, it's more fun than sitting on your computer trying desperately to find information to tarnish the reputation of someone you have never met! Talk about scraping the barrel atsch

 

Couldn't care less mate, utterly irrelevant to me in a discussion of who won the boxing match. Hopkins showed that he was a higher class fighter who was hampered by workrate/stamina issues as he is 43. His personality and attitude are of no interest to me whatsoever. If you want to get into an argument about peoples' mentalities, you are opening a horrible can of worms regarding Mr Calzaghe. But I won't be the one to help you open it, I prefer to talk about boxers' boxing ability rather than how much of a bad, nasty man they may be.

 

A little bit of reality here, if Joe slaps with his shots, No fighter would respect that, No fighter would just sit back or hold and wait for the slapping to stop, they would walk right through it and fire their own or time them and punch with them.

if Joe really slapped you think a guy like Hopkins would do nothing more than just tie him up? I mean come on now, if he slapped and Hopkins having the chin he has there is no way Joe would have beat Hopkins, there would have been no reason for Bernard to stay in survival mode.

 

I agree with what you say.....but perception is key in fights. Even though most knew that Joe wasnt doing anything damaging he was busy and active enough to win on sheer activity which the older Hopkins severly LACKED.

To the judges that was seen as a negative. I felt he should have been doing more. Not just waiting for the PERFECT opprotuntiy to land one or two punches.

Nard in my honest opinion was the more EFFECTIVE fighter....but boxing is about landing punches...even if they are soft as well. And doing so consistantly which Joe did.

Nard for as good as his punches were...he wasn't that accurate due to his slowing at age 43 and he would shell up in much of the rounds. and let Joe give the perception he was controlling the fight.

Honestly I felt it was a close fight and it could have gone either way. I actually love Nard but scored it for Joe by a round! Quantity vs Quality....it's how you like your fights. I'm more about Quality myself but Nard was very inactive and wasn't that accurate. He faught like an older Bhop. Against PAV he looked outstanding!

 

Lack of stamina due to being 43 years old.

 

Bull**** becuase he came back to beat Pavlik being an older man and his work rate was much higher, lack of stamina due to the incomming, Hopkins seems to know which fights to take though, ever notice how he looks great in there with guys who just aint doing ****, example Pavlik and Tarver, yet when he is in there with guys who have quick hands he looks his age, Taylor (TWICE) and Calzaghe.

 

You really think this would've been patently obvious to everyone, but there are those who simply don't understand the truth and those who purposefully block it out and deny it.

 

Classy post.

I gave Bernard the nod by a round and the extra point from the knockdown. I just can't stand when people suggest he dominated the fight and a SD is ludicrous. To me, if you score the fight for Calzaghe it can't be by more than a point or two. I just can't see it.

 

Actually I prefer Quality over Quantity....however Bhop just wasn't ACTIVE ENOUGH! He let Joe work too much and do too little in return. Joe had a hard time landing on Nard so did Nard on Joe which was the main reason I felt Joe edged it.

Joe was doing more yet he was still able to avoid most of Nards offense....as little as there was from Bhop. Hop was doing more damage, but threw less frequently and still had a low connect percetage.

I honestly am like you...I like the "EFFECTIVENESS" of the offense rather than a bunch of offense that doesn't land or has little effect.

But if we go by that.....Paul Malinaggi shouldn't have a win at all. aside from the 5 KO's on his ledger. Nothing Paulie lands does any damage due to his lack of power! He's accurate as **** and he lands but he rarely ever makes a dent in anyones armour...if not for his D he'd never win if we went on the effects alone.

 

And you know as well as everyone else that Joe didn't nothing in terms of damage but he showcased his skills...he was flashy and he was working in there. I just wish Nard had been a tad bit more busy. He would have won comfortably. I bring up how he looked in the PAV fight b/c had Joe faught that Nard....OMG! I feel Joe would have been slept! But I honestly hate "What if" senarios.. It is what it is. Joe beat a legend in a contraversial "W"....but he wouldn't have won against a PRIME Nard...that is pretty undisputed.

 

I couldn't give a **** if Hopkins is 43, if he's too old to last the pace then **** Off and stop whinging about how Calzaghe wouldn't have got the decision when he was a laddie.
Stamina IS part of the sport, it's part of any sport, so is workrate. Fitness and conditioning are part of any sport. Maradonna (the 2009 version,) wouldn't get a game for Man U or one of the Old Firm, or even Hamilton Accies, he's too old and out of shape, doesn't matter how good he is with the ball, he wouldn't get the chance to use his skills. Haye never had the stamina against Carl Thompson. He got beat as well even though he was only in his mid 20's. That's what happens.
The same thing could have happened with Hopkins if he haden't showed his 'class' by feigning injury. Class and cheating do not sit well together whether your talking about personality or sporting prowess.
Conditioning, fitness and workrate are part of the sport as much as any of the skills Hopkins has. If he can't compete in terms of workrate, stamina, fitness etc, then he can't compete and he loses.
If you can't see that you do not have the deeper insight into the boxers abilities that you seem to think you've got; you are missing something very, very obvious.

 

He did hold alot but with those "cuddly hugs" he also was feeding Joe some real leather! There is no disputing Nard did more damage throwing less. I gave Nard credit b/c he was the older fighter. He conserved more and tried to be more efficent/effective with what little he did throw. I just felt he as TOO conservitive.

 

Joe does slap alot...that is undisputed. But he doesn't do it all the time. he has technique. He just slaps when he's in the thicke of trading with a person he's cautious of. You can see when they begin to trade Joe loosing his technique and the slapping occurs