Berto vs. Collazo - Tactical Discussion

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  1. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Collazo too tough to get KO'd and not strong enough to drop Berto. Berto will make a game of this, even if he gets buzzed a little his quickness will carry most of the rounds in this fight.

    Very big test for Berto. I think he comes out of it looking better for the wear.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Only 59 people after multiple bumps.. Any boxing fans here?
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    How do you know?Berto's chin is highly questionable and Collazo has underrated power.He has good pop.Forbes could smother him and cancel his speed or get in a close distance and Berto can't get levarage.Collazo UD.
     
  4. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Many sold post here, great thread san rafael.

    I've already make a small wager on Collazo +475.

    I saw a lengthy workout session with Berto and was able to see where his flaws are bred; his trainer does a terrible job holding the mitts! as a result he throws too wide, his elbows are flared out, and he goes for speed and volume over accuracy. If this goes to a close decision, Berto is HBO's boy with the better promotional backing. He will get the nod. I think Berto can suffer a flash KD, off a well-timed counter shot.

    Collazo's footwork does worry me, Berto wants to plant his feet and trade, Collazo MUST be on the move consistently. Berto can't control the distance the way Hatton can, his feet are slower and less coordinated, so Berto wants to plant and throw combinations. Collazo needs to be on the move, and counter after 1 or 2 punches thrown by Berto, he can't let Berto throw his full combo before answering back.

    The likely result here is a Berto decision win through volume. But as a betting man, Collazo +475 is very attractive.
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Good man (on the wager, you took excellent odds). Cheers, good post as well.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Good post,nice one:good.Put into account in the decision DiBella's handpicked judges.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Excellent point. ^
     
  8. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    oh **** i forgot this was a dibella card, there is preety much no chance collazo will get the nod if it goes to the cards, which more than likely it will
     
  9. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    :good
    good point man

    i have also noticed berto arms are not tucked in at all, they are way out and that can leave his body wide open too
     
  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    "dynanicism" ? :rofl nice

    You pimpin'. Your bitches are IN POCKET.
     
  11. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Why are so many people picking Collazo I can't see him winning.
     
  12. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    collazo is very underrated

    and his has very good tools
     
  13. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I go for Berto by decision. Berto is too fast for Collazo. He just needs to improve his defense more. I expect Berto to be challenging the elites of WW soon.
     
  14. 5Burowz

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    Collazo needs to utilize his movement and his jab to nullify Berto's speed and combinations. I really think Luis southpaw stance and movement could trouble Berto but only if Luis is really active with his footwork.
     
  15. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Collazo will thoroughly expose the hypejob known as Andre Berto. Berto will learn what real stamina is along with learning what real speed and ring intelligence is. People picking Berto here must be aboard the hypetrain or just not know much about the sport. I would not be surprised to see Berto get KOd but I plan on seeing a thorough schooling