Berto will never improve..

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the posters on here who think this fight is just a "learning experience" for Berto dont realize. Watchu see is what you get from Berto. His strengths are he has fast hands, decent, but not great power, and heart. But his defense is ****, and always will be... and his chin is dodgy. Those two factors alone call for disaster to come his way once he faces a top guy who can crack.

    So those of you who say he's not ready for Cotto, and Marg "yet"... more like he never will be.

    He's just not an elite calibre fighter. He's a good fighter, nothing more.
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    If he wants to improve he needs a new trainer, Floyd Sr. for example.
     
  3. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Pretty ignorant post
     
  4. TommyV

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    Do you seriously expect to be taken seriously if you think that he'll never improve? Do you not think defense can be worked on?
     
  5. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right, because no young fighter ever improves....:patsch
     
  6. boricua100%

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    Exactly what he said.:good
     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    He is young enough to improve, but he almost reminds me of a young Fernando Vargas he just has that toughness that is going to get his ass handed to him sooner or later. he does have the skills in terms of speed and power, but the foot work isnt there, Berto needs to add some good footwork to his game and he will be alright, but I just dont see it.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

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    This is just a terrible example of the level this board often flounders on. :-(

    Berto cannot improve? WTF kind of nonsense is that? Berto's a young exciting fighter who's flaws will at timjes make his fights more entertaining for fans.

    So **** off and go back to only rooting for champs...
     
  9. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    what i saw was a rather inexperienced fighter who does not use his head, or cannot shift gears very quickly. he has speed, a good chin, a great workrate, and can fight both on the inside and outside. what he seems to lack is adaptation in the fight, and is still not great at picking his key shots (end of round 11???????).

    So it seems that his gameplan is really what needs to be worked on.
    A good coach can definitely improve this in a fighter, so i disagree with Xplosive.
     
  10. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, this is likely the case.
     
  11. glscotland

    glscotland ****ing Legend Full Member

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    Bit harsh
     
  12. RDJ

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    Floyd Sr. would be perfect IMO. Or James Toney, if he ever decides to become a trainer :D
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I could understand Berto not improving if he was 35..

    :lol:
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's a titleholder. But I guess I meant rooting for established champs, like bandwagoners often do.
     
  15. Detroit

    Detroit Get Money Full Member

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    Berto does has flaws but it can be worked on in the years to come but i can see him gettin KOed if he doesnt get it together