The Greater Victory: HOPKINS v TRINIDAD or MOSLEY v DE LA HOYA I?

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Two of the best wins of this century for two of the best fighters.


    BERNARD HOPKINS v FELIX TRINIDAD, 2001

    and

    SHANE MOSLEY v OSCAR DE LA HOYA I, 2000


    But which do you think was the better win of the two?


    Please vote and explain your choice.

    :good
     
    DINAMITA, Jan 18, 2009
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  2. Smokin'

    Smokin' Member Full Member

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    Hopkins-Trinidad is looking back on it. Mosely is surrounded by controversy now because of the recent steroid accusations.
     
    Smokin', Jan 18, 2009
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  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is an argument for either...But I made money on Hopkins beating Tito and I actually lent towards Oscar to beat Shane in their first fight.

    Oscar arguably beat Tito at his best weight less then a year earlier and Shane was coming up.
    Tito was a freight train tearing through 147-160..but was only at his second fight at 160 against the bigger man. Of course the level of dominance from Hopkins must be taken into consideration.
     
    WhataRock, Jan 18, 2009
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  4. Smokin'

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    Also, nobody thought that Hopkins would dominate Trinidad the way he did.
     
    Smokin', Jan 18, 2009
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  5. Achilleslststnd

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    That might be an age thing. I saw Hop as a big (tall) MW cutting enormously and Felix as a small guy (because he was a skinny light welter when he started). I didn't think he had any chance of winning and certainly not of hurting Hop. Of course, he did grow into being a true middleweight (and Joppy surely must believe so). But, at the time, it seemed ridiculous if you had followed both fighter's careers from the beginning and in particular Hop's from the early 90s.
     
    Achilleslststnd, Jan 18, 2009
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  6. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also thought hopkins would beat trinidad who i thought was overated and had already lost to oscar.
     
    rydersonthestorm, Jan 18, 2009
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  7. Smokin'

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    True, but generally Trinidad was expected to win so it would set up a big money fight with Roy Jones.
     
    Smokin', Jan 18, 2009
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  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    This is a good one, both wins made these guys as stars and potential future greats. The details of Mosley moving up are hard to argue against.. Flipside issue; De La Hoya had recently lost to Trinidad, controversy aside. Speaking of Trinidad - he was thought to be the Devil himself coming into the Hopkins fight. Long story, but I go with Hopkins.
     
    san rafael, Jan 18, 2009
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  9. Achilleslststnd

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    I can't argue that there wasn't more than a few that believed that at the time. I suspect it was a more a lack of familiarity with Hopkins than anything else. I doubt many older fans would have bought into that because everyone remembers Felix as basically a little scrawny guy. But I do recall that they were hyping FT to get to RJJ in the end.
     
    Achilleslststnd, Jan 18, 2009
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  10. Achilleslststnd

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    And then Hop agreeing to fight Oscar three years later gave nearly the same feeling as hearing he had agreed to fight the bum Hakkar in 2003. Seemed like two of the worst fights/mismatches imaginable. And they essentially were.
     
    Achilleslststnd, Jan 18, 2009
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  11. Smokin'

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    I see what you mean. Even Roy himself told Don King not to put Tito in with Hopkins because he knew Hopkins was going to beat him.
     
    Smokin', Jan 18, 2009
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  12. Achilleslststnd

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    Why don't you tell us so we'll know why one of the wins is better than the other? lol Waiting until the end, huh?

    I thought with their history Mosley had a real chance of winning so it wasn't a huge surprise.
     
    Achilleslststnd, Jan 18, 2009
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  13. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Close call but I gotta say Hopkins over Tito.
     
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  14. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And no one thought that Hopkins would land a perfectly placed body shot
    on Oscar's Uterous.
     
    Capitan, Jan 18, 2009
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  15. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins tko Trinidad much bigger victory
     
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