Hopkins would make Chad Dawson look amateur just like what he did to Pavlik....

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  1. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Axe, thanks for lending some rational thought to the discussion.

    Whenever I speak of Chad, people just call me a biased opinion.

    When it comes from someone supporting Adamek, it carries more clout.

    Chad is the style that Hopkins hates.

    Kelly Pavlik is the style that Hopkins DESTROYS!
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMHO, it's because Hopkins would rather face someone less live and more beatable than Dawson. Of course Hopkins is confident that he can beat anyone but he has to know that there is a good chance that he will get outworked like he did against Calzaghe and Taylor twice due to the hand speed of Dawson which will keep Hopkins on the defensive.
     
  3. King Dan

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    Again, rational thought!

    See, we can do it here at ESB!!
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So true indeed.

    Look at the guys he has schooled. Tarver, Pavlik, Tito, Winky. Guys who don't possess blazing hand speed with predictable styles. Something Hopkins can plan for.

    Look at the guys who gave him trouble. Taylor, Calzaghe, RJJ. All with very fast hands that have the ability to get off first. Dawson is in this category.
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins should retire. What a way to go out, after utterly destroying a young, top pfp champion fighter. He'd leave like a king.
     
  6. JonOli

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    Mikkel Kessler
     
  7. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    So did these "skills" just dissapear when he fought Glen Johnson ?
     
  8. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Glen Johnson is a tough old nut.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it's because Glen Johnson is THAT good and comes to fight.
     
  10. 19king88

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    i say he either goes dwn to 68 and gets a fight with kessler or up to cw for adamek both great fights and both with a twist
     
  11. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    do you really think he's proven though? he's got skillz, but i dunno, johnson beat him (or not), and though great, johnson is not p4p material.

    i think dawson needs another year of good matchups and great training.
     
  12. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Good idea.

    I don't think the Kessler fight would happen but the Adamek fight could.
     
  13. King Dan

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    Nobody totally outboxes Glen Johnson these days.
     
  14. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    true. but i think hopkin's experience would, as usual, completely spoil dawson's abilities, in an awkward, rather boring fight.
    Bhop is a master, but his matches are not that great to watch.
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't get why people continue to nitpick Dawson's game. It's not like he's a green Berto or something. The guy is pretty polished. I think he "graduated" against Johnson and his performance against Tarver proved this. He completely outlcassed Tarver. He looked amazing.