That's not fair homie.. DLH got the same bad wrap! PAC faught you're guys just out of their primes but their experience more than made up for what ever step they lost in the speed or reflexes categories not to mention they were operating with FAR SUPERIOR Skills than PAC at the time. EM, MAB and JMM at the time PAC faught, lost or dominated them were still working as TOP TIER comp in their respective divisions! I'm just as upset as the next fight fan by how PAC has let his EGO destroy a fight that was expected to be complete WAR! But to imply PAC is ducking or looking for a easy road is going against all logic considering his resume, accomplishment and fight schedule over the last 4 yrs! Its probalby the hardest fight schedule that any active or fighter in the last 15 yrs had to work through in any 4 yr span.
:rofl He sure did! And you didn't need the score cards to prove it....they just so happenly did in one of the fights.
pac is great and i dont take nothing away from him...but that doesn't mean us fans have to be blind.... the only realy credible win on his resume is the first barrera clash...morales beat him and IMO he still hasn't beat JMM.... so yeah, if your happy with just a win then live on with it...but i'm not, not with past their prime , WAR TORN fighters, and sure as hell not with a fighter that many think beat him twice, JMM :good
like i said, if you're happy with that win, then take it.....the look on manny's face after their second fights scorecards were read was priceless.....:rofl
A win is a win! you don't expect manny to knocked out all the mexicans. If he had Knocked Out JMM his fans would have called him shot. :good I'm just being a realist... pac won thats what history tells me. Now if your Opinion says JMM won then that's another story. Opinions are not facts therefore it's not real.
Both Barrera and Morales were younger than Hatton is today when Pac knocked their asses out garbage thread!
You know I got respect for you bro....We are just on opposites sides with this one. There are many who felt PAC won twice as well...I'm one of them but At the time PAC faught these Mexican greats PAC was always seen as being the one as the under dog! Aside from the most recent rematches. EM beat PAC clearly although that in itself was a close fight...the rematch was almost immediate and I don't think he was shot to bits...neither was JMM or MAB. War torn yes! But operating at their divisions highest levels absolutley. Whether or not you choose to give PAC "FULL" Credit for those wins is optional but to clown EM, MAB or JMM as being a shell of themselves just b/c they lost is doing them a dis-serivice! Taking away from their greatness. After all....Loosing to PAC isn't anything to be ashamed about just like loosing to the 3 great Legends in Mexican and Boxing as a whole is nothing to be ashamed about.:good
That was a close fight and could have gone either way. Judges scored it in favor of PAC, again thats what happened. :good
To be fair and to look at the broad "landscape" These Mexican fighters started at a very young age and had many wars. Their "Boxing Life" are or should be on the shelf a lot faster than fighters who have Olympic careers or who begin fighting in their 20's. Not that i'm trying to diminish PAC's wins b/c they are tremendous no matter how you try to spin it....and there are many who try to spin it negitiively.. i just like to have a logical and unbiased approach.
Pacquiao started at a very young age too and has had many wars too. So WTF is with the double standard I think Pacquiao was younger than Morales when he started his pro career.