Barrera-Khan surgery..... let look at the FACTS and OPINIONS

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Opinion- Its unusual that there has not been one interview with Barrera bout this alleged fight.

    Fact- I'm still not convinced the board will approve someone who has had brain surgery.
     
  2. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Opinion - Everyone has one.

    Fact - Hard to come by in the general forum.
     
  3. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Why has everyone turned into Rafa Benitez??
     
  4. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way would he vacate. He wants big money fights, and reckons khan would be a pushover. Check this from about 9.23

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  5. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fact - Barrera is past his best

    Fact - Small declines in speed, reflexes, punch resistance and stamina can
    mean boxers lose to opponents they would KO in 4 back in their prime

    Fact - Barrera is tiny at L/W, while Khan is huge.

    Fact - Prime Barrera V Prime Khan would never have happened since they would be at least 2 weight divisions apart

    Opinion - Khan's speed & accuracy will trouble any fighter, while his dodgy chin gives any fighter a chance of a KO

    Opinion - Roach will tighten up Khan's defence.

    Opinion - Khan is too big, too fast, too fresh and too powerful for a faded Barrera.

    Opinion - This is a far more straightforward fight for Khan than first appears. Khan stops Barrera in 6 or thereabouts, and looks good doing it.
     
  6. Opinion - Khan beats a faded Barrera.

    Opinion - JMM beats Khan every day of the week.

    Opinion - Manny beats Khan every day of the week.

    Opinion - Nate Campbell beats Khan.

    Opinion - Juan Diaz beats Khan.

    Opinion - Khan moves up to LWW after beating Barrera.

    Opinion - Hatton beats Khan every day of the week.

    Opinion - Timothy Bradley beats Khan.

    Opinion - Khan beats Andreas Kotelnik, assuming Kotelnik beats Marcos Maidana (don't put Khan in the same ring as a puncher like Maidana though)

    Opinion - Khan has a chance against Holt or Torres, assuming he gets through the first few rounds.

    Fact - Khan has to move up to LWW if he wants to win a world title in the near future. He isn't winning one at LW. (OK that's still opinion but I haven't put a fact in yet)

    OK, Fact - If Khan gets sparked again it'll be a disaster for him. Especially in the first round. He's gonna be extemely cautious in the first few rounds.
     
  7. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FACT - Barrera has gone the distance with the P-4-P No.1 and No.2 in the world (Ring Magazine) in two of his last three fights.

    OPINION - The scorecards in those fights were too wide; Barrera was competitive with both Marquez and Pacquiao through at least 8 rounds. I had JMM and Pac pulling out the wins, but not by huge margins.

    FACT - Barrera has massive physical disadvantages to overcome against Khan (speed, punch power, height, reach, core strength and probably stamina).

    OPINION - Someone in Khan's camp, probably Roach rather than Warren, has insider knowledge regarding a slippage in Barrera's reflexes and/or punch resistance in sparring, leading them to conclude that this has turned from a high-risk/high reward bout to a medium risk/high reward bout.

    OPINION - If Khan blows Barrera out Amir will be hailed as the second coming of Ali by Warren, and this version will be believed by gullible Joe Public. But, for true boxing fans the manner of the victory will be all important in how they gauge the merit of the win (if Barrera looks **** in there I will be toning down my praise for Khan).
     
  8. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fact: Barrera's losses to pac (2nd) and Marquez were hardly blowouts, he had something left when those fights happened.

    Fact: Khan can't punch

    Fact: Barrera can

    Fact: Khan can't take a punch

    Fact: Barrera can

    Fact: If Barrera loses it means he is utterly shot, size and weight not withstanding

    Fact: Barrera is (or was) a great fighter

    Fact: Khan isn't and never will be

    Fact: If Khan wins the media will have an orgasm and all of us who acually follow boxingand have even the vaguest iea of how it is will vomit

    Fact: This fight is only happening because Barrera is old and not a lightweight

    Fact: Warren will never put Khan in with a puncher again and never with a world class fighter

    Fact: Khan will eventually leave Warren, fight a puncher and be ko'd again

    Opinion: Khan will never fight Thaxton, Murrey or Mitchell, at least two of which are certain ko losses.
     
  9. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed
    Khan Khouldn't crack an egg.
    undoubtedley
    regardless of the manner of the supposed win, if it happens, Barrera's shot or at least past it, or it's a fix.

    I'm just waiting for someone to call me racist for being a realist. I'm not more a racist than Prescott is (Breidis, not Jack).
     
  10. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know he is more of an accumulation puncher, but at LW I have got to believe that he packs more of a dig than Barrera.
     
  11. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I fixed these for you
     
  12. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why? because you've watched him shoe shine a few no hopers and the refs who've read the script wave the fight off?
    He's a hype job. A confident Audley.
     
  13. D-MAC

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    You must really hate the guy.

    Im no fan either, but I think it is generally recognised that he has good power at LW, very good speed at LW and terrible punch resistance (at any weight).

    Barrera hasn't exactly been a KO machine the last few years, even taking into account the level of comp. And I'm finding it hard to remember many one punch KO's from him in the last ten years.

    **** Khan's level of competition; he's a big LW who throws punches in a correct manner, and he throws them with speed. I don't think there can be any argument that Khan will be the bigger puncher of the two.
     
  14. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    barrera ain't shot.

    he's had some good wins since ayala.

    and gave marquez and pac decent arguments.

    especially marquez. :bbb

    he's still got more than enuff to sort khan out. :good
     
  15. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fana fight.

    a guy with a padded record and got taken out in the 2nd rd with a big right hander.

    he's never been a one punch guy anyway.

    he always takes u apart bit by bit.

    but he has the power to hurt khan.

    he's better than gomez and gomez gave amir a struggle. :bbb