More over rated-Margo's skill or Cottos power

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 1lehudson, Jan 25, 2009.


  1. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    I'm sorry but the Windmill's skills were never rated highly.
     
  2. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Divac makes a damn good point about the difference between the Cotto fight and the Mosley fight. I just finished watching Margo/Mosley and it is so obvious right from the start that Mosley could actually push Margarito back whenever he felt like it and tie him up succesfully whenever he wanted to. Cotto could not do that and the reason is Mosley is physically stronger than Cotto, and is naturally bigger.

    At one point (can't remember the exact round), Mosley actually manhandled Margarito, he had him tied up and almost lifted him and threw him against the corner. It is obvious Shane is bigger and has more strength than Cotto, to be able to do that. Those factors allowed Mosley to stay in the center of the ring and not let Margarito get him cornered, to have the space to throw the kind of shots he wanted to.

    PS: I think the options of the poll are a little misleading, I don't think anyone thought Margarito is a very skillful fighter to begin with. Cotto's power might be a bit overrated, he's not a "puncher", but the guy can bang and cause damage. Solid hitter, but not what you would call a pure "puncher".
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only thing I hate about this fight is the plaster allegations...

    It gives Cotto fans a pitiful excuse as to why their *****-ass fighter got his ass whipped. It had nothing to do with plaster... The difference in Shane and Cotto is that Shane has the chin to actually step in, load up, and throw REAL punches, instead of back-pedaling. And Shane could step in there and throw the extra punch because if he stayed inside too long, he had the strength to tie up Margo, something Cotto just couldn't do.

    I said it before the fight and I'll keep saying it. Mosely is just as hard-hitting as Cotto, and just as fast. Plus he has a 100 times better chin, and much better strength to tie up Margo.
     
  4. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Formerly Samurai Full Member

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    Interesting cause I saw Cotto getting the better of Mosley in the clinches. :yep
     
  5. fake_southpaw

    fake_southpaw Cutman Full Member

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    Margarito's skills we're never rated that high. People knew that Margo relied on his chin, weight, and stamina to win fights, not skills. Cotto's power, on the other hand, is good, but overrated, imho. Mosley wasn't considered a hard puncher by a lot of experts, but look what he did to Margo - something cotto was not able to accomplish.
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he didnt have the power, watch the fight with Shane...Shane made Margo back up...Stop and think about what he was doing and Shane's power is what made Margo punch output go down...Margo walked right over Cotto, he never took a step backwards, he never respected Cottos powers.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shane took a ass beatting in his first fight with Forrest and never stopped trying to knock Forrest out...Cotto quit loaded gloves or not he quit.
     
  8. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Hey NBA, whasup?

    I didn't know you had that big a problem with Cotto... :think

    What's the deal? And why would you "hate" the plaster allegations if they turn out to be true? And if Shane is so superior to Cotto, how come he lost when those two met?

    Legit questions, and you better give me some fookin answers.
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Will and heart plays a part as well.....But I agree, I have made that very statement on one of the many threads about the fight...Margo didnt kno that Shane was as strong as he was....But Shane also had the will and balls to bang Margo in the body....
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stronger then Cotto yes.....Naturally bigger??? OMM not...

    the poll isnt misleading the only thing is those people that were saying that stuff for the most part have found the balls to get in here and face the music.
     
  11. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was really a matter of who the judges were...Im not saying it was a robbery or anything, but given a different set of judges you would have a different outcome...Cotto got a win over shane, I dont think that he BEAT Shane....
     
  12. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I said "misleading" meaning that the option about Margarito being a skilled fighter isn't valid, I don't think many people thought Margo was ever skillfull. And about their size, well Mosley is 5'9 to Cotto's 5'7 and has been fighting at 147 or more for far longer than Cotto. Also, Shane didn't look as small in there as Cotto did vs Margarito. Don't forget, Cotto does look small for a welterweight, Shane doesn't look so small fighting at 154.

    Shane's exact words right after their fight, after being asked by Kellerman if he thought he won the fight, were: "I thought it was a very close fight, but you know for a guy to be able to be in the ring with me like that and be able to fight me back... I take my hat off to him. If I felt I won or not? Um... I thought it was a close fight, the judges saw it Miguel's way... It was just a great fight, I take my hat to Miguel he's a great warrior".

    I think Cotto beat Shane in a very close fight.
     
  13. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember very well that when Buffer announced Cotto as the winner, Shane nodded in agreement and started clapping. He knew he lost in a close fight and gave Cotto his props.
     
  14. satan12

    satan12 Play Fast Or Die Full Member

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    margo blew all the chances he had when he defeat cotto on this fight with mosley, all i can tell you is he really is a b fighter and needs to go back and have that rematch with clottey and williams to prve himself as on of the best, and Cotto as well.
     
  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    That's correct mate. He did nod. But I don't think anyone thinks that fight was controversial or anything. Close fight, but clear win for Cotto. But the way Mosley fought, one can't call him a "loser" in that fight.