Would Monzon vs Roy Jones be competitive?

I've always thought that in his prime Jones has a shot of beating almost anyone at middleweight. H2H he is a nightmare for some of the best middleweights in history.

 

I tend to agree with this. Monzon never fought a guy as fast as Jones, or perhaps even on who hit as hard.

 

I think Jones has an excellent chance of taking a decision. Potentially bad matchup for Carlos IMO.

 

"Calzaghe only slaps"


I don't see how Jones-Monzon wouldn't be competitive. Both of them would be at least competitive with any middleweight in the history of boxing.

 

You think he would stop Monzon???? No way, Monzon has one of the greatest beards of all time.

 

I said in a post the other week that I wouldnt comfortably pick any middleweight in history to beat prime Roy jones Jr and to my surprise I wasnt violently and publicly castrated all over the boards. Prime Roy isnt dominated by anyone so it doesnt matter if you a Monzon, Hagler, Greb or Robinson fan, Jones would ALWAYS be competitve even if you think he would lose.

 

At 160 yes, we dont know if moving up in weight would benifit Monzon so 175 may not be a benifit at 160 Carlos was meat and potatoes, Jones was solid but a lot of smoke and mirrors mixed in

 

Not bad for a guy who slaps eh?

 

Fast slaps are more likely to cause cuts, especially when lots of repeat shots land on a slightly cut area. Heavy shots more likely to cause swelling and ofcourse brutal KOs. Hence Calazaghe has never scored a brutal KO

As for the thread Jones wide UD, too much speed and boxing ability for Monzon

 

The man getting smashed in the face and ko'd had 1 of the greatest beards of all time at WW, if you get hit with countless fast flush shots by a big puncher at the weight than you can get ko'd. Jones probably wins a UD but a KO isn't out of the question, Jones stopped plenty of unstoppable fighters in his time.

 

When did Jones take the risks to go for a stoppage against someone the quality of Monzon.A win for is most likely going to be a decision with Jones using lots of lateral movement to diffuse Monzon, only taking as many risks as he needs to win the fight.

I think it's more likely him getting timed and stopped if he lays it all out going for a KO with countless fast shots.If Roy does stop him i think it would be more due to a sneaky super-quick counter that he probably wouldn't necessarily intend to end the fight with.

 

The quality of 'someone like Monzon is 1 thing, Toney and Hopkins were both faster and had superior defenses. Yo assume Jones wasn't 1 of the most dangerous 160-168lbers ever is pretty foolish.

What about these contenders in his prime:

Jones-Griffin

Jones-Mallinga - Jones completely dominated and KO'd a future 2 time WBC Champ (lost the belt in a contoversal SD), who beat Benn and most had him beating Benn in a previous meeting and been jobbed too. Also fought close SD against Eubanks, which may have gone his way, the Rochigiani was said to be controversal (I didnt see it)


Virgil Hill - TKO4, (12 against DM, 12 against Mormeck)
Thornton - TKO3 (takes Eubanks to a close UD, goes 12 with Toney)
Thomas Tate - KO2 (goes 12 with Julian Jackon)
Sosa - TKO2 (SD against Toney, 12 against Nunn)
Wolfe - TKO1 (went 12 with Toney)

 

I know how dangerous Jones was, but i couldn't care less about those fights when talking about a bout with Monzon...maybe if it was someone like Mustafa Hamsho i would.He took next to no needless risks against Hopkins or Toney.

I can't see him taking much risks with Monzon either.He'll respect him and do what he feels he needs to do to win a decision imo.

Putting aside Monzon and roy for a second, i don't like trying to pump up Malinga by bringing those later supermiddle accomplishments up.Malinga was a solid fighter up to the Jones fight, where he was already slowing down but stil worthy.Those later wins came as a mediocre ancient fighter who was able to have success due to the shitty or shot fighters he was fighting.His fights at that time were appallingly bad to watch.

 

Would they be competitive?

YES!

The question was whether they would be competitive. So I will not hazard who wins.

 

I don't think Jones starts by going for the KO, I do think he lands flush, neck snapping shots far easier on Monzon than he did on Hopkins/Toney as Monzon is much more stiff and not as defensively sound. If he starts landing 6 punch combos and getting his shots off it could become very 1 sided and he may sit on his shots more. At 160 he probably doesn't do this quite as competantly as he would a few pounds over the limit. Up until around 1994 Jones was a much more aggressive fighter

As for Malinga he has a good case for beating Benn and Eubanks back to back in 1992, neither were past prime in that year. Pretty opperator or not