Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I agree 100% but consider the fact that Wlad was fighting a very fast, counter punching southpaw. That's not the way he fought Byrd I realize but still, Iggy is a handfull and a very hard style to plan against. Iggy has some "pop" too, pardon the pun. :cool:
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    That very well might be a fair comparision. :yep

    It's just hard to imagine Haye taking Wlad's punches when an ol' Mormeck knocked him down............as did an old Barrett.
     
  3. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Mormeck knockdown wasn't heavy.His head was clear,clear enough for him to take a knee.Even though his legs were shaky for a round or so,his head was fine and he had the experience and know-how to survive and then landed his power shots to end the fight in the 7th.
    This should be more worrying for Klitschko fans than it is encouraging
     
  4. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats a good point, though take Rahman for example, his chin looked like dog **** against less than powerful oppenents leading up to his fight with Wlad, but somehow he managed to stay upright for 8 rounds, which really shocked me, considering he looked a little rocked against Toney in the 3rd round and ended up quiting.

    I would be lying if I said Haye's chin didnt worry me, it's probably just as bad as Wlad's, if not worse, becuse of his guard and lack of clinching skills. I see Wlad having trouble early, as he did against Peter and Brock, then finding his rhythm by the 5th round and ending matters on one punch, probably straight right, by the 6th round, I see a possible Calvin Brock type ending for Wlad, he just needs to get through the first couple rounds, and he should be alright.
     
  5. Random1

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    Wlad wasn't trying to knock Rahman out though, it was pretty obvious that he was taking his time until later in the fight. Didn't make it a nice to watch fight, but made it easy when he did try.
     
  6. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can he afford that against Haye?He is dangerous and has the power to KO him at anytime
     
  7. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No NO wlad was trying to knock rahman out fast! He said it in german newspaper! I know cause i am german! he didnt knock rahman spectacular out because he was trying it to hard!
     
  8. Punisher33

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    That may be true to an extent, but he still landed shots that would of normally put a weak chinned Rahman out cold. Wlad was pretty cautious with Rahman, I guess he respected the fact he got power, and probably watched the Lewis/Rahman 1 fight one too many times leading up to the fight and had nightmares.:yep
     
  9. Random1

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    I think that depends on how well he establishes his jab and forces Haye to bend to his will - or doesn't. So far the past couple years Wlad has accomplished that against righties, so for now I'm going to assume he'll be successful. If he is, then yes, I think he'd take his time to really put a beating on him. If he finds he can't, then he'll probably take some chances and we'll see a real fight for as long as it lasts.
     
  10. Random1

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    Sure didn't look like it in the fight I watched. I didn't think for a moment he was trying for the KO until he really had him hurt.
     
  11. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad aint putting a beating on anyone.If he wins it'll be relatively quickly.Either way I can't see this fight going past 6 rounds but I maybe wrong
     
  12. Random1

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    Well none of us will know for sure until fight night.

    I maintain that unless Haye can force Wlad to really fight (and I'm not saying he can't), we're going to see what we've seen for the past few fights. It's what's been happening, so until proven otherwise I'm going to assume it still happens.
     
  13. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IF haye really knows what is coming up there with wlad i am sure he is gonna be prepared! And will give a good fight!
     
  14. twopiece

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    Rahman=SLOW. Ibragimov=moderately fast. Wladdy likes slow fighters as that makes them even less likely to be able to land a shot (or shots). Thompson=SLOW. Peter=SLOW. Brock=SLOW. Austin=:rofl

    Wladimir fought the way he did against Iggy (a little guy that does not have one shot power) due to his fear of getting hit. He could have imposed himself and forced that stoppage. Instead he won't dare show his face in a ring in NYC after that embarrassment of a fight.

    These comparisons to Chris Byrd are also WAY off. Byrd never had the kind of genuine pop that Haye carries and he is a bit smaller than David naturally. Not saying David will win (haven't even bothered to post a pick in this pointless poll) but some of these Klitschko nuthuggers are just trying to alleviate some insecurity.

    Wladdy will just use the "one-two and hold" strategy. It should get him the UD or stoppage if Haye has no way to neutralize it. Haye better be prepared to fight the fight of his life, but I won't say he can't do it. He possesses a set of attributes that less than 3% of Wlad's resume had at one time.
     
  15. dragosuhail

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    i still think haye's downfall will be his stamina combined with his lack of solid defence.

    haye will be dangerous in the first 4 rounds like corrie sanders but if he's not knocked out by the fifth, david will be very tired.

    i mean, haye doesn't have a high workrate as a heavy or crusier, so i can't see him getting more energy when wladimir is landing those jabs for the first few rounds.