Thomas Hearns H2H at 147

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dose Hearns highth, reach, power and skills give him an advantage over boxers who rank higher than he dose on ATG lists in hypothetical match ups at 147?
     
  2. smitty_son408

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    Greatest H2H fighter @ 147 / top 10 all-time.
     
  3. Dodgson

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    Hearns at 147 is the closest to an invincible fighter to ever exist.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he stayed at 147 for longer he probably slips up a few times. If you look at his losses at 160, he lost in 3 rounds once and to a very basic brawler in Barkley. I think its possible a big punchers and aggressive pressure fighters take him out. He didn't lose because he was too small though, he was still a big 160lber. At 147 he has huge size advantages but still the same weaknesses.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Yeah, except for the fact that he got TKO'd at the weight by a better fighter in his own era.
     
  6. stevebhoy87

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    Sugar ray robinson and leonard are clearly better h2h fighters at 147 IMO, an argument could be fashioned for napoles, burley and gavilan as well
     
  7. Dodgson

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    Except for the fact that it was a bull**** stoppage and he came back to school said fighter only to get robbed in the decision.
     
  8. smitty_son408

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    good point, i may have overrated him a bit, he was relatively green at @ 147 and not knowing how to clinch would cost him against the big punchers you named.
     
  9. Dodgson

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    Napoles is an absolute no-hoper against hearns.
     
  10. natonic

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    Bull**** stoppage? So you think he would have actually made the distance against one of the best finishers ever? He was put through the ropes once and laying on the ropes taking a brutal body beating. He was done. I love Tommy but no way is he the greated H2H welterweight ever. The rematch was 8 years later 2 weight classes up. It means nothing concerning Hearns standing at 147. Plus, he probably would've been stopped then too if it was 15 rounds.
     
  11. Dodgson

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    classic strategy of pretending to be a fan to try and give your argument that "bias free" sheen.

    Too bad you've got leonard in your avatar to give it all away.
     
  12. McGrain

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    :lol:

    Head to head Hearns is a grossly overated as some of the posts in this thread show.
     
  13. Dodgson

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    grossly underrated more like it.

    Leonard and Robinson, easily arguable.

    Napoles? no way. You'd have an easier time defending aristotle's ideas on chemistry at a chemistry symposium.
     
  14. Robbi

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    I dislike Leonard, yet I don't think it was a "bull****" stoppage. And sometimes I have Leonard in my avatar. Simply because I appreciate him as a fighter. You have just accused Natonic of being biased when he was anything but ridiculous with his opinion.

    Don't read too much into peoples avatars when trying to figure out if someone is biased. Mines Especially.
     
  15. Dodgson

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    I've lurked here for quite some time.

    The number one rhetorical method i've seen from nearly every poster is prefacing negative statements with "im a big x fan buttttttt negative negative negative"

    It's very close to the modern day "i'm not racist but *racism*" statements made in the outside world.