Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye

Yesterday it watch some Haye fights. David Haye is not Mike Tyson. He is not aggressive like Tyson or Samuel Peter in 2005.


Haye drops his left hand, he is open for the cross. He is not so fast some like to want him. He is open for the jab and the left hook.

Wlad will win much easier than most think. Mayebe in the same way Wlad win against Austin.

I hope the fight will take place in germany, because it will be too short to fly to London.

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the fight will be at stamford bridge!! ie big football stadium(50-60 000fans) other (non-british) fighters can only dream of such support!!
if haye wins then it will be a very sad day amongst the many haterz on ESB!

 

Maybe germany Schalke Arena (40000 people) and you can close the roof if it rains!

I hope it will be there or Düsseldorf, TUI Arena 40000 people!

Wladimir is the Champ! And he can choose where he wants to fight!

 

Its at Stamford Bridge London!Do you understand?

The point made earlier was that other fighters from other nations would not get that much support/that many fans into an arena

 

Correct Wlad himself wants it in London so everyone is happy

 

You are deluded guy...I don't follow you around.
IT's not about living in the past or present, it's about living in reality. Just because I don't want to argue it all the time, doesn't mean I'm not using it for the prime example of how you are oblivious to truth when it conflicts with your opinion.

 

Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't mean that I am not dealing with reality. After the fight, several well respected boxers, and trainers were asked in their interviews about who they felt won the fight... and many of them said Oscar. Many said basically the same thing that I have said all along. People were basically giving Sturm rounds by default, just because Oscar didn't look as great as he usually does. Any time that you have an underdog perform much better than expected this happens. Sturm's own trainer admitted that he told Sturm after the 4th round to stop trading with Oscar because Oscar was making him look silly in exchanges. Which is why he basically hid behind the jab for most of the fight. Throwing out one jab at a time when you are being outworked like crazy isn't going to assure you a victory.

I think it's really simple. We disagree on the issue. Big deal... why do you care so much? I sure as hell don't care that you think Sturm won. Hell you probably think that Tito beat Oscar, and that Mosley did in their second fight. I would disagree with that too... so what? It's a difference of opinion... it happens in this world.

Here is what Freddie Roach said after the fight... (remember this was well before Oscar and Freddie had any history together....

"Yeah, I watched it.. Felix is a good fighter... I knew he would give Oscar some problems.. the thing is... I thought if Felix pushed the issue a little bit he may have came out on top . but I did give Oscar the fight. he landed some great bodyshots.. I think Felix's corner should have urged him on more....If Sturm would have pushed the issue a little more.. who knows?.. I gave the fight to Oscar by a little bit because of the bodyshots early, and the combination.. Sturm was too happy landing one punch at a time... his corner should have urged him to put it together more.. I feel Oscar needs to be in better shape though.. he looked a little heavy, and a little soft.. He will have to be in much better shape to fight Hopkins.. Hopkins is a true Middleweight.. one thing about Delahoya.. he fights all the toughest out there.. I have to give him that... but, something is missing in Oscars game.. he should not be fading in the last 4 rounds... something needs to change for him.. I am not sure what it is..but something needs to change... maybe the high altitude training...??.. not sure.. but something needs to change for Oscar.. "

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I guess that Freddie Roach is out of touch with reality too?

 

I understand a difference of opinion. That occurs all the time, we are talking about either recognizing or justifying a robbery though.

Anybody who is respected who said they believe DLH won, was lying, imo. Ask Roach now. I would but I don't know him.

DLH did nothing the entire fight...it wasn't a 7-5, it wasn't even competitive. Sturm jabbed his way to victory easily.

 

I edited and added piece of another interview that Roach was asked the same question in. Why the hell would he lie?:huh

 

Off topic a bit.....and I'll probably get slated for saying this......but I thought De La Hoya - Sturm could have gone either way.

Oscar looked fleshy and generally poorly conditioned in that fight but his body attack and the combinations he threw were excellent. Sturm exhibited a good jab but I don't know if it was enough to win the fight. He didn't dominate with it as an offensive arsenal. Sturm did land crisp punches on the inside but I found myself swaying to De La Hoya in some of the close rounds.

I'll be honest, I haven't sat down and scored the fight but I have watched it recently but the cries of "robbery" are a little far fetched. It wasn't that clear a victory for either man.

If someone else thought Sturm won then I won't argue because it was that kind of fight.

 

He wants to be Mike Tyson, but he tries to fight like Roy Jones, he just doesn't have the mentality of RJJ. Haye will never be that great.

 

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I watched this fight with a number of people, one of them every bit the Oscarsexual Presscot has branded you as. He sat there with his heart sank into his gut the whole time with a look in his face that was like Oscar's during the interview after the fight. He was man enough to admit Oscar was soundly defeated by a guy who did it almost one handed.

I didn't have a problem with Oscar until that fight...he should have said with his mouth what the rest of his person communicated. He lost. By a landslide.

 

By a landslide? I HAVE to see your scorecard. Who did you score round 1 for? I watched it with a room full of people too. I was the only real Oscar fan there... and not a single person was acting like it was a robbery. Every single person except for one of us had it 7-5 Oscar. My good friend... who absolutely hates Oscar had it a draw. I will admit that they had me pointing out everything throughout the fight. However, I think that it's needed because body work is ALWAYS overlooked. My buddy who hates Oscar was screaming at the top of his lungs for Sturm to throw something other than one jab at a time.

So... I take it that you have a real problem with Tito then right? Or... do you believe that Tito beat Oscar?:think

 

That night was a disgrace for american boxing. Just because Oscar needed a belt to make his clash with Hopkins even more attractive he simply couldn´t loose. Even if Felix would have ripped his head of...

I know that some people tend to brand germany as home of strange judge results, but that outcome was just bullsh**