Julio Cesar Chavez' relaxed, thumping blows.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shake, Jan 30, 2009.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If y'all like to blithely toss about unsubstantiated claims that, if true, would undermine an individual's life work... well, enjoy.
     
  2. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor had that high cheekbone fragile Wilfredo gomez type bonestructure.He just marked up real badly aroudn the eyes, plus was unlucky to get a cut in his mouth.
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Just because some guys punches sound similar doesnt mean they all cheated with illegal hand wraps.

    Thats yet again an insult to the ATG skills of Chavez.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Yeah, the guy you never wanted to win won twice by stoppage, thats a real **** eh ?
     
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  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I request that you flesh that out. What is "uniquely American" -and abhorrence of body punching?
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    A single **** ant discussion tucked away on a message board is going to ruin his career. :lol:

    Get ****ing real.
     
  7. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's kind of funny how both me and Russel went out of our way to state beforehand how we're not accusing Chavez and still someone feels the need to be so offended they write up lines that read like they were torn from daytime television.

    No, seriously, are you one of the writers of Bold and the Beautiful?

    And fyi, if they were true, they deserve to undermine his life's work, no? There is no way to know as his career is over and done with. He probably didn't. It is possible he did, though. What is dead sure is that this thread will never impact him.

    I really have no idea what you're so prissy about. Acting like a big girl imo.
     
  8. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is probably true. It was kind of similar to Cotto how they suddenly turned visible late in the fight, though.

    I always wondered how Chavez' short, lean body could generate so much power, which lead to an 'aha' moment after the Margarito affair that is probably nothing.

    Chavez knocked out Roger Mayweather pretty early, which points to heavy hands early.

    Still, Haugen was a tough cookie. The way Chavez leisurely just picked a shot, delivered it half-heartedly and then the impact it had on Haugen. Sure, they were two tiers apart, but I didn't expect Julio's punch to affect him that badly.
     
  9. markedwardscott

    markedwardscott Active Member Full Member

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    I think Chavez in his prime got all his weight into every punch. When he got over the hill he would get frustrated and use dirty tactics.
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've always found it interesting to at least entertain both sides of everything, considering the truth of most things that come under fire is somewhere in-between the two extremes.
     
  11. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Chavez was way more heavy handed than Margarito. He just seemed to have a snap at the end of his punches that did a lot of damage. Different league of fighter than Margarito. So no, I don't think his hands were "loaded". Yes, he did get pretty dirty at the end of his career. I think that falls into, like all sports, a guy will do what he's allowed to get away with. What Luis Resto did, and what Margarito allegedly did is a whole other proposition. I think that is a criminal act and should be punished as such. Hopefully for the sake of the sport, Margarito is cleared.
     
  12. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    p.s. I don't put much stock in the Trinidad wraps at all. The guy could flat out punch. When he fought fighters equipped to expose his physical flaws he lost. Cut and dried to me.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's really half-assed to insinuate something so damning and then couch it as non-accusatorial. You can't have it both ways. If there were even an inkling of evidence- moreso than "wow, taylor's face was really ****ed-up"- then it would be a line worth pursuing. However, to my knowledge, Chavez has never been accused of any illegal wrapping procedure. Ergo, no substantive evidence to even begin this line of questioning. Quite simple, really.

    Lastly, I apologize if exercising a vocabulary over 30 words is offensive to any involved. I damn sure wish I wrote for the tele. That's some good coin.
     
  14. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The sound of JCC's punches in the Taylor(1st) fight when they landed were crazy, i thought taylor had a broken jaw.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    As if someone being involved with Don King, being King's biggest money maker after Tyson, and said fighter being involved in one of the worst draw decisions in decades isn't enough to give you that 5% doubt to question something. :lol: