Is it wise for a tall Boxer to focus on the body?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Gavin, Jan 31, 2009.


  1. Gavin

    Gavin Member Full Member

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    I'm around 6''4-6''5 and most likely will be fighting at 75kg, (''Walking around'' weight is around 77-80 kg but it usually goes down to the Middleweight limit after a session) so I'll probably be taller then most of the Boxers I'll be fighting. Just wondering should I aim for the body much as I've heard a tall Boxer will be much more open to a counter and I rarely see tall fighters such as Wlad and Vitali aim for the body.
     
  2. avk47

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    You can, but it depends on your style. You get some tall guys who for some reason prefer to fight short and come forward all the time. One of my coaches is like that. He is about your height and 69 or so kilos, but he goes in peekaboo stance and slugs it out. If you're more normal than that, again, you can, but you have to be very fast doing it, particularly at moving in and out. I'm a short, stocky guy and I love to work the body out of a counterpunching situation, so I enjoy it if a tall guy tries to bodypunch me - its an opening for me to get in and catch him with a combination, so he beter be faster than I am. And usually, not always, the guy with shorter arms is faster on the inside.
     
  3. avk47

    avk47 King Full Member

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    But that doesn't mean you shouldn't develop a body attack. It helps a lot if you're versatile.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    body attacks should be developed no matter how tall you are

    my advise would be to work the body up close not at distance
     
  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I agree with that second point, because if you go into a crouch trying to dig a cross and than retreating, chances are youre gonna get caught and your own momentum will make it even worse...

    I used to do that a lot, lol, a cross to the body, than sliding back out of range.. Now I think its better to jam the cross to the body than get right next to them and try to follow up with a hook.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    gavin if you want to watch a tall fighter who was good to the body to get some tips

    watch some alexis arguello
     
  7. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At middleweight Bernard Hopkins was usually taller than most of his opponents but he trained himself to be the best inside fighter in the world. The way he mounted a body attack was probably the safest way to hit and no get hit for a tall guy.
     
  8. TommyV

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    "Kill the body and the head will die"

    Having a good body attack can never hurt, short or tall. Doesn't mean you should neglect it all together, just don't focus on it as much as you would focus on keeping the guy at the end of your jab.
     
  9. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm a short guy, and IMO it's very hard for a tall guy to go to my body. THe kid I trained for toughman at 6'5 I told him it's a big risk going to the body. I taught him how...Because it's useful if he fights somebody around 6'2, and up. Against somebody 5'6-5'11 I think it's a HUGE RISK. Just look at how far he has to bring his hands down, and expose that chin. He wasn't the most physichally strong kid I've ever seen so I didn't want to see him get his chin cracked while going to the body..He'd have to be so damn quick.
    Soon as I see a tall fighter go to my body just jump in and straight for there chin!
    Just look at Wlad if you want to see how a tall man should fight, and last long in the sport. How often does he go to the body? He really doesn't anymore...Because he doesn't want to risk getting that chin cracked! Of course people say he doesn't take risks, and isn't exciting enough, but you know what? He may be cautious, and sometimes not that exciting, but the man hardly takes a punch in the whole fight! It's a thing of beauty IMO.

    One of the best tall body punchers (at least for his division) would be Margarito....but you see what happened to him. How many punches can one take? Plus, he's physichally bigger than most so he was able to do that for a while.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    the best tall body punchers

    or maybe even the best body puncher

    is arguello i think margarito is overrated
     
  11. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your probably right. If Margarito had some SKILL while going to the body he'd be one of the absolute best. He plods straight in though, and bang, bang to the body while taking hits upside his head. Very few tall guys can take a punch like he does...and a lot of big guys don't have great stamina to do his style.
    So, IMO if your quite tall...Like your 6'4-6'5 I would not go to the body on anybody below 6'.
    People say hits to the body slow there opponents down, and it sure does. Know what else slows them down? Some hellacious jabbing!! No need to go to the body if you jab there heads off round after round, and there scared to even get close to you....
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ill have to disagree with you primenal

    i think even if your 5 or 6 inchs bigger than an oppponent or 7 or 8 inches bigger you should work the body up close. But you have to remember to bend your knees down when you do it.

    btw Margarito does hit well to the body but he fights like a small fighter so yeh hes a good tall boxer that goes to the body. But hes not an upright out fighter who goes to the body
     
  13. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    tommy hearns left hook to th ebody is one of th ebest body shots i have ever seen.


    sluging it out to the body can be effective if you are tall becuase it could be a very awkward for a smaller man to get barged open by a taller guy...it isnt common but i wouldnt suggest it as a main strategy.


    right crosses to the body can be very good but depends on how fast you are. we have a ghanian student training with us. the guy must be 6'1 and 130 pounds or somthing, an absolute bean of a guy, sadly he is slow as hell, and even tho he knows how to use a jab, once your inside he is fair game. point is that he has descovered the right cross to the body which was pretty effective against one of my mates who is about 5'7 130 odd until this right hand comes flying in and my mate lands a short counter right cross...blood everywhere.

    moral of this story kids, going to the body is an effective for taller guys but it has to be used a bit more spairingly than others. but left hook to the body then maybe switch up to the head might be more prefered choice.
     
  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    not a great example of his bodywork but still some 7 heavy heavy left hands to the body.
     
  15. BlackWater

    BlackWater G.Wash. Full Member

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    That's how Tunney beat Greb and he's a good four inches taller.