Is David Haye now out-pricing himself?

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  1. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it takes three belts - IBF, WBC and WBA - to be considered undisputed. Haye never held the IBF belt I believe.

    Please stop hyping Haye up. Both sides of the debate are equally bad at this.
     
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  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Sorry Radar, I had to get new tires put on the car... is that ok?

    Anyways.. did you happen to miss the "Is" and the "?" in the title of the thread? You are acting like I pretended to know the numbers or something. What I DO know is that Haye was barking about this fight for a long time, and now he isn't accepting the offers being sent to him. Haye's manager has said that... so what else would the reason be? We know that Wlad isn't going to want some crazy options, and we know that Wlad has already gave the ok for the fight to be in Haye's backyard. We also know that Wlad isn't a cutthroat at the negotiating table and has never been accused as such.

    However, a person much closer to the situation than you or I has already thrown his word in that what I was asking was exactly the case. That's all I need. I am sure that Haye isn't holding out because of the gloves. I am sure that he is making things difficult in order to get the most money that he possibly can. Nothing wrong with that so long as he still signs the contract in the end. It would really be sad if he called Wlad out that long, only to turn down a fight with Wlad in London.

    They were actually looking to possibly move the fight to Germany if there is more money in it... which also shows that there is money issues in the negotiations. Wlad's being kind by offering to fight Haye in London, and Haye shouldn't turn around and use that as leverage to get more money. He should be happy that he is getting the fight, and getting it in his own backyard. You know as well as I do that Wlad wouldn't be offering him anything unfair. It isn't in his character.
     
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  3. Rudolph

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    This one could very well go to the scorecards. If Klitschko finds Haye a difficult target that he can't catch up with I'm pretty sure he'll spoil and jab all night.
     
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  4. Tuffnutz

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    **** belts.

    He beat The Man! :deal

    See my avatar?

    Fedor = Haye and Arolvksi = Toffee Hammer! :deal
     
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  5. Rudolph

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    Yes, and acting like Haye's been offered 5 dollars for this fight isn't great either. Some of you were posting nonsence "do you expect Haye to fight for peanuts?".. Bonkers. Both these guys are pocketing a few million, trust me on that.
     
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  6. Rudolph

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    The value of Haye and Arlovski combined equals the value of Fedor, which also equals the value of Toffee Hammer... wtf?
     
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  7. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    There is NO hype, only facts!

    Genuine World Champion plus a pile of KTFO people.

    All stacked up like Hay in a barn!

    All thank's to farmer Hayemaker! :deal :yep
     
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  8. Tuffnutz

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    :lol:
     
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  9. Radar

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    That's all I needed to hear. I guess "thanks" on my part is in order. :D

    The "Is" and "?" are exactly why you don't have any basis to speculate in a negative manner about Haye's motives, as you have clearly done. What was that about "hater shades"? :yep

    How could you or I possibly know this? Can you tell me the purse splits in his past several major fights? That's a starting point. Then we STILL need some concrete numbers in this instance to properly assess.
     
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  10. Rudolph

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    What do you mean by Toffee Hammer? Are you saying WK is the Candyman? OMG. Don't tell me Haye has called his name thrice...
     
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  11. Radar

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    Quite possible. :yep
     
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  12. Radar

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    You remind me of my old friend Odo. We managed to get along well after a time.
     
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  13. Rudolph

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  14. Radar

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    BTW Widdow. New tires was a damn fine idea. You don't seem to have much traction left. :lol:
     
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  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I can tell you what the Klitschko/Ibragimov split was. 50/50
     
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