Willie Limond turns to promoting; Shoots for the WBU world title

Yeah, and now that Froch's fighting again, I'm back.

 

robpalmer,you seriously havent got a clue have you!nobody wants to fight willie limond its been 5 years since he last got a british title shot,how long has the man got to wait,he won the lihtweight commonwealth and lost to amir khan and in my eyes as given amir by far his hardest fight so far,so hes doing his own promotion to get fights and get on.limond is more than capable of beating any lightweight in the country given the chance.

 

Where have i ever doubted Willie's Ability as a boxer. Infact 95% of people on here repeatedly call him a feather fisted blown up super featherweight, something I have never done.

i also think he is much more than "the guy that almost beat Khan". He gave Arthur a tough fight and it was probably a bit soon for him to be in with AAA. He won the commonwealth title which is an grat achievment.

my problem is with the WBU, and any one that supports that title, and fighting for it means your supporting it. If David Haye was fighting for the WBU title, i would give him stick, if James DeGale was fighting for the WBU in his first fight, I would give him stick.

I think i do have a clue mate!!!

 

Being silly, acting like a prima donna and...being a tad hypocritical. Aren't you the one who's going on about how Calzaghe should be fighting Froch? Well, don't you see how Froch's just after a payday? Why should Calzaghe fight this guy who's not even a proven world class fighter, when there's so many better fights out there for him to make, against better, more proven fighters, unless it's to give your boy Froch a payday? Don't you see that your obsession with certain belts makes no sense? What's Froch done to deserve to call out Calzaghe and **** on the likes of Kessler and Bute? He's never beaten anyone in the top 10, yet that doesn't stop him from calling himself a world champion! He goes on about his belt being the "biggest prize in boxing" and "the most prestigious", implying he's the best champ of the lot, the "real" world champion, whereas in fact, he's just beaten a fellow unproven prospect, giving an unconvincing performance for a supposed "world class fighter". Yet, he never says that when he hypes himself as the "future of British boxing", does he, rob? Why? Because boxing is a business largely based on hype and (self-)promotion. So why shouldn't Willie call himself a "world champ" too, if Froch calls himself "the" world champ, having beaten Pascal? Don't you see that it's about the payday for him too, as well as it is for lesser fighters? Don't you see it's all about money and the opposition you fight? What's wrong with belts being used to get more money and a better, more motivated opponent? That's why Froch's been gunning for the "prestigious WBC belt" - to make money of it and to get better, more motivated opponents into the ring with him, so he can raise his profile and make more money as a result. It's not about the belts, rob. It's about money and the glory, for the fighters. Belts help you get a better opponent (hence the glory bit) and more money. For the fans, its about the best fights that can be made and about champs fighting mandatory challengers (so that unheralded, unpopular but deserving fighters can get their shot at the big time too - good for "the sport", not just for business). How does the WBU or any other belt work against that? There are fighters who hide behind their belts. There are fighters who drop their belts to duck opponents. But that is not because of the belt itself. It's because of what the fighters/promoters are like, as people. Belts = more money for the fighters involved. More money for the fighters involved = better quality performances (more motivated, better fighters involved). Better quality performances = good for us, the fans, and good for boxing, because they attract more fans to "the sport". What's so hard to understand?:?

"****" belts help fighters who aren't lucky enough to have Warren as a promoter or who aren't popular with casual fans get better opponents into the ring with them, it helps them make some money, so they can continue "in the sport", and it helps them climb rankings, so they can get better fights against better opponents in future. End of story.

 

sicne when have i been banging on about froch??????????

first of all Pascal is deffinatley a top 10 at super middleweight. nothing you say will make be doubt this. i guarantee he will pack up a belt.

i have only ever said calzaghe should fight froch because i think it will be a fantastic fight. in terms of intrest in the fight froch is ahead of everyone but dawson and a hopkins re-match. but i have never really gone on about this. i also don't get how i could be a hypocrit for saying calzaghe should fight froch. calzaghes win over kessler was clean, and i think froch is a mile ahead of bute.

how am i acting like a prima donna? the whole point of a boxing forum is for people to voice there true opinion, thats what i am doing

i also do not call froch a world champion, infact if you read elsewhere on this very thread i claim there is not a single true world champion in the sport today. to be a true world champion you need to have all 4 of the main belts (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO). The ring magazine show american bias and chop and change there rules so i dont go with them (i know the alphabets do to)

perhaps froch sees it as a payday but i honestly think he feels he could beat calzaghe and kessler and believes. in himself to want that fight. i would not be suprised if he is taking less money to go to the states to fight taylor than fighting at a voluntary at home.

part of my point is that willie could get a better opponent from spending the wbu sanctiong fees on a better opponent.

the only reason the wbu or any other **** belt has helped a fighter is because they also had a good promoter behind them.

the wbc, wba, wbo and ibf are bad enough, but they have rule that they sometimes follow, mandatroy challangers, you fight guys in the top 10. the wbu lets you fight anyone

 

Froch nuthugger talk, in my view. Not even the biggest Canadian Pascal fans on ESB thought that he was Top 10 before Froch fought him and I'm not sure any at all think that he's definitely Top 10 based on his performance against Froch. But hey, if it makes you think better of Froch's last performance and hence of Froch, in general...whatever floats your boat, as they say.

 

i rate froch like allot of other, but i am far from a nut hugger, i also rate pascal, saw a few of his fight on channel 5. i think there good. sometimes you can think that about someone whether they have fought someone fantastic or not.

anywat, your jumping of the point.

wants your opinion of the WBU.

 

What part of "stepping stone" do you not get? The man himself has said thats is exactly what it is. He's not deluding himself or anyone by fighting for the WBU and claiming to be the best in the world. Willie has made this clear in every interview he has made on the fight.

 

Willie will get a better, more motivated opponent because the WBU belt is on the line. This is because more punters will come and watch the fight, with a "world title" on the line and because a better, more motivated opponent can be got for the more money available and for a title that can then be used to attract more punters and better more motivated opponents with, because it is desirable to hold in the business. In other words, it's a win-win for everyone, including the fans, who will get to see a better quality match-up because the WBU belt is on the line. That's what I said in my previous couple of posts. It's what some others said too.

 

john p someone who talks sense at last,well done mate.you talk fact not nonsense

 

cheers, billy.

went by the lagoon tonight but they're not selling tickets till tomorrow, can't wait to get my hands on the ticket !

 

It's Billy Nelson..

 

this is getting out of hand, as i said before everyone has their opinion, you 1st said to me fight someone move up the ratings, john fewkes, is a good fighter, but at this moment he is below me in the ratings, and with no title on the line it would be a no win situation fight, and lee meager has retired, i think john fewkes is with maloney, therefor maloney would want him for his own shows, and not the one were having, the point im making here is iv never avoided a fight if its for something, i was offered to fight Katsidis, for my IBO inter title, in Japan or something, i said yes but the money was really bad! so no fight! anyway this fight is happening im just trying to work with the hand iv been dealt! and if im honest i would rather fight for any title than fight for none

 

I dont think whatever you say will satisfy. Fairly obvious reasons have been pointed out by yourself and others, even myself at the beginning. I thought it was a given these days that the titles etc arent as important as before, even when someone unifies, Haye for example, they just drop them and go look for the fights they want and fair play. As you says take whatever you can get.

I would be well happy having a WBU belt on ma waist the same as any other belt, cause I would know the training, discipline and sacrifices that i went through and i worked damn farkn hard to earn it. THIS part is lost on many a poster here for all manner of reasons. Am sure people here think fighters are cartoon characters sometimes.

Fair play Rob you have your opinion of the WBU past and present and are sticking to it.You are right, theres a few here that need there tongues unjammed from the proverbial ring. If i hadnt already bought ma tickets for the Burns bill i would probably go to this and i certainly wouldnt feel ripped off, WBU or not. Couldnt care for titles, as i said before, im there for the fighters and by that i mean the undercard. Couldnt care less if the WBU titlefight bombed.

Go pay to watch aussie pro bouts Rob then you see what ripping the fans off is all about :deal The ones i watched anyways. They seem to be a bit more competitive nowadays. Aint easy given the amount of Pro's though and building there career at the same time.

On a different note, i mentioned AAA fighting Katsidis recently. I thought it would be a sound fight for both given there current situations. Damn shame you didnt get the "cash up" for it. Is there any chance it could still happen at a later date ?

I wonder if anyone would question if you had fought Kats that it was being fought for the Intercontinental IBO ? Hardly up there either in terms of belt respect it seems.

Nah they would be and i hope, more interested in who's fighting not for what they are fighting.

Anyways, all the best n all thaa :good

 

but its a clear FACT that the belt is only a stepping stone to those that have a top promoter. macceranelli, jennings, lockett, hatton were all with frank warren. its not going to help willie.