Calzaghe announces retirement

Here we go...

 

Don't understand all this hate for Calzaghe

 

Good decision! Thanks for the memories, Joe!

 

Sven Ottke retired undefeated. No one really remembers him that much and not with much fondness either. At least Sven fought a few guys who were in there prime. Joe meanwhile refused to fight Ottke and fought a bunch of pastries instead until he cashed in his chips when Lacy came to town. Marvelously talented fighter theres no question about that but his career ledger is shambolic. When it mattered most it NEVER happened. Besting Hopkins in a spurious decision and Jones who has more holes in now than swiss cheese is hardly the right punctuation for a socalled glittering career. The man was a classic right time right place guy who did VERY well from boxing and gave NOTHING back to the sport that treated him so well. Good riddance to bad rubbish i say and i hope him and his ****ing senile father are reading this.

 

Let me guess you didnt sit through his matches with Tocker Pudwill, Brazilian cab drivers and guys with no vowels in there names?

 

I think you are being a bit kind to Enzo there Scurla...... I'd say calling him scenile is complimentary.

Out of interest.... question for you (and anybody else who cares to answer btw)..... who would you have said were his best opponents post-Eubank, pre-Lacy?

Reid and Woodhall?

 

Reid.

 

And your scorecard for that one?

 

OK guys... simple question here. Out of Calzaghe's potential foes in and around his division, the stand out ones are:

• Roy Jones
• Bernard Hopkins
• Sven Ottke
• Daruisz Michalczewski

If you add Calzaghe to that list, out of the 5 boxers and the 9 potential fights that could have happened, how many of them did?

The answer is 3 and it can be argued that at least 2 of those meant little at the time they took place.

Is it really ALL Calzaghe's fault? Or is it the sport of boxing that let's things like this slide?

 

114-113 Joe.

 

No, not all Calzaghe's fault, Frank Warren must shoulder some of the blame.
Some Great fight's were there to be made and didn't, it's a shame that Calzaghe didn't get to fight Jones till he was shot, that fight should have been made year's ago.

 

****ing well said that man

 

3? What are you talking about? Joe never fought Darius or Sven. Now as for being Joes fault it was WHOLLY Joes OWN fault. The man was legendary for pulling out of bouts. So much so that Lacy demanded a down payment BEFORE they fought because of Joes bull**** previously with Johnson where he pulled out twice. Even Warren grew tiresome of his antics and had to encourage Joe to lace them up because he was going to pull of out of the Lacy fight.

Now if Joe wanted to face the big names he could have but the facts remain when it mattered most he DIDNT. He refused to participate in Don Kings middleweight tourny. His bout with Thomas Tate fell through because tate was sooo old and decided to retire so we got Pudwill instead. Then his bout with Telesco at 75 fell through as Joe said he couldnt make 168 anymore. Lo and behold he stayed at 68 and fought Mger whateverthe**** his name was instead. Even bouts with Joppy went by the by. And these were all to get him name recogition in the states. There was even talks of domestic clashes with Eastman (when he was unbeatean) and Woods. These could have been huge domestic clashes they never happened.

As for the Sven bout Joe refused to fly to Germany. Likewise Sven wouldnt come to Britain. Joe apparently had a fear of flying. But Joe flew to Scadinavia to fight Kevin "ceasefire" Mcyintyre on the Tyson undercard??!?! That bout was soooo woefully poor that even Joe petitioned the ref to stop it as Kevin was nothing more than a basic clubfighter. And lets not forget his padded bouts with Kabery, Jiminez who Joe couldnt even dent and was a part time boxer! and the Chef Mario Veit as he really needed to fight him twice didnt he?! O yes but he did because Veit was his WBO mandatory!

All in all his career ledger isnt up to much. Decent but hardly the ledger of an ATG as proclaimed loudly by his fans.

 

Joe laced them up not Frank. Joe was making easy money defending the WBO thats why he stayed on these shores. When Joe wanted the big fights and of course the big money he left Warren for dust. So that argument doesnt hold much water as it wasnt Warren holding him back. They both made VERY good money together. Joe simply didnt want those fights nor did he need them.