Is Joe Calzaghe the Greatest British Fighter of All Time?

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  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye's done more than Khan...and Arthur
     
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    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    You should have made this a public poll.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    If thats the main thing you see wrong with that list God help ya...
     
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    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Is he the new Baileys Tunes?
     
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    :yep

    If you truly believe this then I am afraid it just shows that you probably took too many shots, hands down and flush :hey
     
  6. GazOC

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    :lol:Very true...:good
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Nah, I've a new found fondness for Baileys. Funny guy.

    1. Bob Fitzsimmons
    2. Lennox Lewis
    3. Jimmy Wilde
    4. Ted 'Kid' Lewis
    5. Ken Buchanan
    6. Joe Calzaghe
    7. Jim Driscoll
    8. Randy Turpin
    9. Jackie 'Kid' Berg
    10. Benny Lynch
     
  8. DINAMITA

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    I'd have Wilde above Lennox, but other than that this is a great top 10.
     
  9. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm i've never seen six of them fight Dinamita and i've only seen fitzsimmons in snippets...maybe my list should start from 1980 :patsch
     
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    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I did until very recently actually. I always had Fitz, Wilde and then the Lewis's cast in stone, but I've had a reconsideration on Wilde's resume. Too many unknown quantitys there. I know a lot of these records are incomplete, and not infact inexperienced opponents as they seem, but how good...its quite impossible to say. That is my main hang up.

    His statisitcal record, power, some decent wins and achievement as the first flyweight champ, the consensus greatest of this divisions history, as well as looking good on film..unquestionable.
     
  11. GazOC

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    I've always had the problem with Wilde, great numbers but a little short on quality, world class opponents. I even hesitate to put him at number 4. Different times of course.
     
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    Sorry i missed of enzo.
     
  13. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree. I think there's a good case for placing pre 40's fighters on a different list because it was pretty much a different sport back then.
     
  14. Guy

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    and Matt skelton
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Exactly, these things have to be done on an era by era basis. We can't seriously compare pre-modern fighters to todays in a H2H context, although I'm sure a few would fair well.

    Wilde fought the best of his era at home and abroad including often being outweighed by decent margins. That is all you can ask from a fighter. People would be in uproar if a fighter did that today. A few lbs is seen as major reason to pick somebody.