Classic Forum! Let us decide on the Best 10 Wins in History!

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I'd like this to be a decent debate/discussion, so I'm not going to bother posting a list because all that happens in that instance is that people focus on disagreeing with it rather than putting forward their own suggestions (plus a best win list is a very very subjective and difficult thing to do IMO and I don't have time to think it through thoroughly on my own, I'm bored at work just now and think this could be a very interesting thread!).

    However, there are a couple of wins which spring to mind immediately for this list and which I will propose now for definite inclusion:

    - DURAN v LEONARD I
    - GREB v TUNNEY I
    - LANGFORD's win over WILLS
    - FRAZIER v ALI I


    And there are others I will put up for consideration as they are wins that I believe are legitimate contenders:

    - ALI v FOREMAN
    - DOUGLAS v TYSON
    - ARMSTRONG v ROSS
    - ROBINSON v GAVILAN II
    - LEONARD v HAGLER
    - HARADA v JOFRE I or II
    - FITZSIMMONS v CORBETT
    - CHARLES v MOORE I or III
    - BURLEY v MOORE
    - LAMOTTA v ROBINSON I
    - ALI v LISTON I


    Let's make a Classic Forum Top Ten Wins Of All-Time!

    All opinions/comments welcome!

    :bbb



    PS: This is a thread about BEST WINS, and the criteria for a BEST WIN is QUALITY OF OPPONENT and QUALITY OF PERFORMANCE - this thread is NOT NOT NOT asking for the TOP TEN WINS WITH REGARD TO HISTORIC STANDING/SOCIAL IMPACT/CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE etc etc, it's about the quality of the win as an in-ring feat of boxing only!!!!!
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    To suggest a few more posibilities:

    Jimmy Wildes win over Joe Lynch

    Max Schmelings win over Joe Louis

    Mickey Walkers draw against Jack Sharkey

    Barbados Joe Walcotts win over Joe Choynski

    Jem Driscolls win over Abe Attel

    Mike Gibbons win over Jack Dillon
     
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  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    janitor 10 best wins in history and you put up a draw come on execpt from that some good points especially schmeling over louis i would also shove in the rematch aswell
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I felt compelled to mention it.

    A former welterweight champion one punch away from defeating a future heavyweight champion.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Terry McGoverns win over Joe Gans if it was on the level.

    If it wasnt then his win over Pedlar Palmer would still merit consideration.
     
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  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    - ALI v FOREMAN - YES
    - DOUGLAS v TYSON - Tyson was out of sorts
    - ARMSTRONG v ROSS - hmm ok
    - ROBINSON v GAVILAN II - Both greats but Galivan would lose 5times in the next year
    - LEONARD v HAGLER - YES
    - HARADA v JOFRE I or II - perhaps
    - FITZSIMMONS v CORBETT - perhaps
    - CHARLES v MOORE I or III - I'd go with 3
    - BURLEY v MOORE - Maybe although Moore was a little inexperienced
    - LAMOTTA v ROBINSON I - both inexperienced, I love the last fight
    - ALI v LISTON I - YES, although top 10 maybe a stretch
     
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  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does this include performance aswell as the wins significance?

    For consideration:

    Leonard-Hearns 1
    Napoles-Griffith
    Jones Jr - Toney/Hopkins
    BHOPs-Tito (Tito was P4P no1)
    Tunney-Dempsey 1
    Barrera-Morales 1 (which Barrera really won by a landslide)
    Pacquaio-Barrera 1 (domination over a top3 P4Per and legend)
    Pacquaio-Delahoya (amazing weight hopping and what if DLH isnt shot?)

    Dominations Over Top Level Champs

    Foreman-Frazier
    Liston-Patterson
    Tyson-Spinks
    Patterson-Moore

    Wins in great great fights

    Benn-McCellan
    Eubanks-Benn1
    Eubanks-Watson2
    Hagler-Hearns
    Hamed-Kelly
     
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The best win missing so far is Charles second PTS win over Burley. Astonishing for such a young man.
     
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  10. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sandy Saddler-Willie Pep 1
     
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    pep-saddler 2 thats a good win aswell drew
     
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  12. mrplow182

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    Jim Driscoll over Abe Atell.........complete shut out and a disgrace that he never got given the belt afterwards. From what I've read his jab that night was perfection.
     
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  13. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always found that one to be remarkably impressive and overlooked.
     
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  14. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Dick Tiger vs Jose Torres (1966) as a possible nomination........
     
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  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't mean to provoke, but the more I think about it, Douglas's win over Tyson stand out. People can say what they will about Tyson's state of mind, but the fact is Douglas was 42-1 underdog and he THOROUGLY DOMINATED Tyson, who was rightly seen as invicible at the time. When has something like that ever been done before or after?
     
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