James Toney vs Bernard Hopkins - 175

Eugh.

Toney would be forced to attack and would lose wide on PTS.

 

my personal thoughts are that any fighters who come forewards to toney lose, straight up.

hopkins knows how to hold his ground and also can counter, but i think it will be hopkins on the outside, while toney paces forewards, waiting to shoulder roll nards right cross and come back with his own straight right and follow with the left hook.

most of the major exchanges i think would be won by toney but hopkins will cover up effectivly and stone face him.

in reality i think hopkins has more drive to win where as toney just wants to beat guys up which is why toney seems to not give a **** and for that reason hopkins will stone face him and steal the rounds and out hustle him.

hopkins ud.

but lets not get it twisted toney is a solid top ranked fighte rtand a hellish head2head fighter but hopkins i dont think has the reasons to win....you could say toney has a much better chance against calzaghe an d calzaghe has a better chance of beatign hopkins....styles make fights and toney isnt stopping,outboxing,countering,outhustling hopkins. bernard i think gets beat by workrate and awkward agressivness as seen by calzaghe and taylor and also jones in a way (very awkward and threw alot of shots in combinations)

toney is aggressive but only if he can land without being ****ed to walk forewards...his best wins are against guys who come froewards and are pretty dorment on the outside.

bad match up for toney tbh

 

close fight but Toney has to be carefull for quick weight loss, mistake was made byChris Bird and Roy Jones..40 lbs or so is a lot to lose in a rapid time and fighters get weakened but if Toney is fight he is crafy enough and goes to the body well to make it a rough fight...B-Hop is crafty but he is not a speed demon like Roy...this one makes for a fight to watch

 

Hopkins at 175, Toney at 160.

 

I just read in Fightnews that Toney was willing to come down to 185 to fight B'hop.

I don't know about 185, but at 175 Hopkins should get the better of him.

 

Toney would kick Bernard's ass at any weight. If they sign to fight, Bernard needs to change his name to "The Executed"

 

Bull****

give real reasons for your position not your personal dislike for GBP and everybody involved with it.

Hopkins wins a wide decision if he stays on the outside and forces Toney on the front foot.

 

This is unlikely. Toney's style plays straight into Hopkins's.

 

Toney is a lot physically stronger than Hopkins. Toney is craftier and smarter and knows all of Bernard's little BS trickery. Toney ****s him up on the inside and parries and counters everything on the outside.

 

Would look like Toney-McCallum 4, worth staying up to 4am for

 

I'd like to back James here, but I have a tough time doing it.

I'd say Bernard wide UD. Toney gets a couple rounds just because the judges will say "Looks like I haven't given Toney a round in a while."

 

Toney was outboxed by peter for **** sake everybody who chose to use an outside game has either flat out beat him (Samual Peter Roy Jones Thadzi ) or made things very difficult for him. At 175 Toney could not beat Griffin he aint beating Hopkins. He is not beating 2000-2003 Hopkins at 160 either he has a chance against early 90s boxer puncher Hopkins .

Toney's game is waiting for guys to come to him so that he can counter them when he is forced to come after guys he is not nearly as impressive.

 

@ there very best I lean towards Toney.

 

I think on there best nights Toney was a better fighter and was a more diversified fighter the Hopkins.Toney does not get the credit he deserves ,even RJJ said Toney was the most skilled fighter he ever fought.