How can 3 men of that stature be so wrong?

The only way that their opinions would in any way be more valid than mine is if they had actually shared the ring with JC...they didn't.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and be comfortable with it, but I'm sorry to say that you are painfully off the mark here.

 

He avoided all challenges though, which is why I lack respect for him.

It seems when he was out of the ring, he lacked bottled and a fighters heart. Can't question it when they finally forced him in there though.

Even with the Lacy fight, he tried to back out, until they made it clear 'this is your last chance, go out and there and do it, there's no way back if you pull out here'

 

Boxing is a funny old game, you are only ever 2 or 3 wins away from greatness. You never know, Jennings might destroy Cotto and go on and unify the welters, unlikely but possible. Khan may school Barrera, take on Nate and beat him, all of a sudden Khan is on the verge of greatness....it happens

 

Khan was a HUGE favourite against Prescott, while Calzaghe was an underdog against Lacy.

Its not Joe's fault that Khan got the crap kicked out of him by a guy he was supposed to comfortably beat, while Calzaghe did a total number on Jeff "next big thing from America" Lacy.

 

That place is an ivory tower...I feel really inadequate just daring to read the various posts

 

Don't ruin his little fantasy world.

 

Ditto.:good

I feel that I am pretty saavy when it comes to discussing the modern game, and I can even sort my Ray Robinson's from my Rocky Marciano's, but those guys in the Classic Forum are neck deep in the game; overall, there historical knowledge of boxing puts mine to shame.

Thats why I like to go into the General Forum now and again, just to make myself seem like a know-it-all-smart-arse to the troglodytes that hang about in there.

 

I hope your right icemax I'd just love that to happen
I just liked watch Calzaghe fight......

 

And me......when someone can produce punch stats for the bout between Tom Spring and Jack Carter in 1819, and tell you in which of the 71 rounds Carter went down then you know you are in the presence of greatness :deal

 

i like to consider myself a regualr poster in the classic and know fairly much about boxing but these guys make me look like some idiot

 

Fighters who are destined for greatness tend to explode onto the scene whereas the ones who have been groomed for the top from an early age tend to falter...its what makes the sport entertaining. Obviously nowhere near an all time great but the Steve Robinson story proves that a man can wake up in the morning as an average fighter but go to bed that night as a world champion

 

For what ever reasons Joe only ever stepped in the ring with, in 46 fights, one guy who he was not the favourite to beat.

 

In reality doesn't it show that joke organisations will bestow the title of "champion" on anyone who will pay them money?

 

If I post something and someone like Sweet Pea appears and tells me its bull****, I don't argue back.

My theory is that they are all computer posters...not actual people.

It would explain a lot.

 

And how many do you think somebody like Mayweather was not a favourite in? How about Roy Jones when he was actually doing the work that contributed to his legacy?

Meaningless.