What is the Criteria of ATG

I don't think you have to do something thats rarely been done. Boxing has been going on for a long time, thats not a sensible criteria.

You simply need a resume that is deserving of cracking however many ATG's you consider there to be. I don't usually think far beyond 100. If his resume is better or equal to fighters at the lower end, he's an ATG in my book.

 

For me here's a couple of point's.

1. Some significant win's in their resume.
2. Unbeaten run does count for something, But fighter's with loses on their records who faced better opposition should score higher.

 

resume..resume..resume..

i concentrate from the time the boxer become a contender and ends when he is not in the top 100 p4p anymore...thus Dela Hoya's loss to pacman has a bearing in his ATG rankings in my book bec he is still in the top 100 p4p before the fight...

 

Considering that SMW isn't even one of the original divisions, that would be highly unfair to all the fighters that fought before the divisions creation.

You have to be very careful when it comes to divisions that didnt exist back in the day. Throw in the fact that nowadays there are 4 title belts in every division and it really gets screwy.

Riddle me this: How would Calzaghe have fared if all the SMW's and LHW's of his time were forced to fight for one belt?

 

galaxy suddenly comes to mind

 

So where would you place roy jones jr, who hasnt exactlly got a great resume, and lost against calzaghe, tarver, johnson,griffin

 

??????

:huh

 

Top 3!

Jeez a prime hopkins, toney, roy jones ,

 

otkke is still there

 

I agree, but lets extrapolate this.

Now throw him in amongst the best light heavyweights and super middleweights of all time.

This would again SIGNIFICANTLY drop him down the ranks.

Now you're looking at top 20 for just LHW's all-time.

You get where I'm going with this?

Its a slippery slope.

Thats why resume's come in so strongly. And then you get into the whole issue of the validity of a win or loss. Using RJJ for an example. He was a great victory for Tarver, not so great for Calzaghe.

 

joe calzaghe resume is he is the best fighter in 168...boy, he wasnt able to KO bhop and jones...his prime is when he is in 168...beating bhop and jones is just an icing..but had he KOed them..he is can make a claim that he is Top 50