Great Punching Power ...(need advice)

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Ryuu, Feb 7, 2009.


  1. Ryuu

    Ryuu New Member Full Member

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    Sorry if you cant understand my English!
    guys i love boxing hit and getting hit and i spar a lot but i am not in any gym its not because i don't want 2 its because i cant trust the trainers in my country. so 5 months ago i meet a person that happen to be my classmate that was 2nd in Europe at his weight and his brother was the 1st at different weight i wanted to see the way he train... so i went to the gym where he trained there was nothing spacial 2 and half hours of training a bit road work then warm up and then some regular training at the same time i had a pro kick boxer friend that came with me because his trainer was lame ... so we wanted to try boxing...

    then we started spar everyday we had all the tools we needed at first most of my punches reached him he is some kind of speed out boxer he doge a lot of punches and he have powerful counters that he don't really love use on his friends.. but he showed me that he able to counter my punches without problem...
    i used Ducking style duck and punch with great force and i knew how to use faints effectively until 1 week ago i lost twice with almost no punches that landed on him ...

    i need help!! what should i do for increasing the speed of my punches in a short time and be able to use my punching power much more effectively
    my hooks really sharp and strong and even fast but i almost broke and arm from a counter X_X i must learn how to surpass his doge ability's his speed is something else but 1 thing is sure and it was tested if i punch him with full power even if he block it, he will fly away and might even get down and it will hurt... i am not body puncher type i always aim for the chin and the head
    he had a rest of a week after he got 1 punch from me and his head still hurt that's what he told me ...
    I'm counting on your help people sooner or later I will have to join a gym but i am trying to do stuff in my way for now...
    i guess i am a type that don't understand until he get few hits ^^

    thanks...
    by the way we are both same weight Welterweight
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i think you need to work his body a bit more you cant really dodge a body shot.

    aim your punches lower so as he dodges them he rolss into them

    what country are you from anyway?

    also you said he is the second best at his weight you are getting worse because he thinks your good and is using all his skills on you to help you learn
     
  3. Ryuu

    Ryuu New Member Full Member

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    No no you got me wrong the one i spar his a good friend of mine his a kick boxer, the one that is 2nd in Europe or was dunno have been expelled from school he almost killed a guy 3 years older then him, when i was there me and the kick boxer stopped him the other guy was on the floor in the street he broke all his face that 2nd Europe guy was expelled i don't really have any relation with him i just wanted to see the way he train ^^ he was calm in that state when he almost killed that guy and what worse the guy run for his life and he dash into him and punch him in the head the guy fall and the school call the police and more stuff..
    i don't really have much information about that 2nd Europe guy his 15 years old right now i am 17 ^^

    about country information i want to keep it private ^^ sorry.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok i understand its jsut you type good english

    just try new things out in sparring and use advise on this board
     
  5. Ryuu

    Ryuu New Member Full Member

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    I will ^^ my spirit wont die and i will try new stuff...
    about body shots it is effective i know it..
    i have a great combo but i cant use it effectively
    use left Faint then dash into the left side and use left fast hook to the ribs that hook is deadly fast but i just cant dash and hook together dunno why X_X
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    use the body shots so your opponent drops his hands then go to the head
     
  7. Ryuu

    Ryuu New Member Full Member

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    that will work after 15 Strong body shots and if i can get close enough then i will be able punch his face if i wont get close enough he will doge and might even duck he have 1 advantage that i can't forget
    his arms much longer then mine that work perfect with his doge then to counter ...
    that's why i will use ducking in that moment and punch him with huge force!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmaPxa-eZss
     
  8. OuterDrake

    OuterDrake Guest

    Learn how to shadow box,and lift weights.Primarily chest work outs for your hooks.

    join the gym ASAP.

    So of what I read you spared with a ex pro kickboxer(friend)

    He most likely knows how to box at some avg level.You have to know that he still reacts like a kick boxer at times and that's what you should full him with.Stay
    at a range where he would throw a leg kick but since he can't kick you,u will have to throw a straight and tie him up over and over after every straight you throw.Measure
    with a jab throw a straight and clinch.Kick boxer have little or no head movement.I hve
    had my share of mma guys coming to the gym to spar.
     
  9. Ryuu

    Ryuu New Member Full Member

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    My country weak in sports there is no money for sports and most trainers and sportsmen came from Russia or somewhere around there like me , and that kick boxer have skills above normal kick boxer his father is pro sportsmen and also karate trainer he teach him a lot of defense styles and movements and the guy combine them and made himself unreachable at my current state..
    i once got angry that i couldn't hit and i pushed him into the corner and used uppercut that came almost from my leg with my right hand, and with the left i pushed backward to increase the speed!, the guy didn't see it coming but for some reason he automatically made a new defense that i never saw before and changed the course of the upper to his shoulder he got hurt but it didn't hit his chin X_X he have high sens for this stuff.
    straights and jabs effective on him but after i throw a lot of them because his head move backward and his arm a bit longer he able to counter at the same time...
    his speed really good and its getting better but I'm not falling from his punches although he try hard it doesn't really effect me and when he get tired i can hit his head hard enough he might even fall but i don't really have to do it .. its just a spar anyway

    he use kickboxing/karate/thai boxing/and now boxing..
    o and ye he does react like kick boxer when he think he cant stand more punches he take his leg up for defense and close his head with hands thats when he get into the corner ^^ i
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You gotta explain this one...
     
  11. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. I think he would be better off working on his obliques and hips.