Has Oscar fought the best opposition of any fighter ever?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Can anyone name a fighter who has consistently fought better opposition than Oscar De La Hoya?

    Pacquiao
    Mayweather Jr.
    Hopkins
    Mosley
    Vargas
    Trinidad
    Quartey
    Chavez
    Whitaker
    Hernandez
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    Mayorga
    Sturm
    Gatti
    Campas
    Camacho
     
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  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not in the era of fractured titles
     
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    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    tommy hearns

    leonard
    hagler
    duran
    cuevas
    barkley
    benitez
    hill

    that list of names alone wipes the floor with oscars resume
     
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  5. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is an argument for him, Hopkins, Trinidad, Jones and Toney. No doubt that Oscar's resume is one of the Greatest Ever. The man fought Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Hopkins, Pacquiao, and Whitaker, and Floyd Jr. Count the number of WBC Titles these men have won combined.
     
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  6. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the modern era you would be right, ever no in my opinion

    Sammy agnott for instance fought:

    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Henry Armstorng
    Willie Pep
    Ike Williams
    Bob Montgomery
    Lew Jenkins
    Fritzie Zivic
    Beau Jack

    Others that have fought better fighters than oscar i would say where langford, greb, zivic, marshall, moore and charles off the top of my head, there would be others too
     
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  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How so?
     
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  8. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    who cares who anyone has fought, our analysis of any person should depend on the result and oscar lost most of his big fights
     
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  9. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oscar has a strong case for this title but the subject of who fought the best opposition makes me scream:

    NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER

    its the timing and cirmumstances of when a fighter fought a certain great.

    oscar did fight a lot of elite/great fighters who were near there peak. I never count chavez when arguing for dlh. whitaker seemed to be past it before he fought oscar but managed to turn back the clock. so i count that

    He figured that he would make welterweight easily before fighting a pacman. he would never have fought pacquia if he thought couldnt have got a real advantage

    Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns fought fighters who were a notch above anything de la hoya fought. fighters who are often considered elite, top 20 ATG'S WHILE THEY WERE AT/CLOSE TO THERE PEAK. THe only guy oscar fought that is often considered to be a top 20 ATG is sweet pea (Hopkins stock may have gone up since october last year)
     
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  10. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here is Leonards record:
    Hagler
    Duran
    Hearns
    Norris
    Benitez
     
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    No.

    Take a look at Ezzard Charles' for example. You'll be staggered.
     
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  12. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at durans record:

    Hagler
    Leonard
    Hearns
    Buchanan
    De Jesus
    Benitez
    Palomino

    There are a few other really good fighters he fought in his lightweight days
     
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  13. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    great point brother
     
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  14. fitzgeraldz

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    What about his victories against the opposition?
     
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  15. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Leonard, Duran and Hagler are all greater than anyone of DLH's resume. Only guy that comes close is Pernell, and he was past prime....

    Hearns has got three top 15 ATG's in his resume multiple times, just for starters.
     
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