What makes Roy Jones Jr's Achivements much better than calzaghe's?

how he demolished his opponents and being p4p king...both goes out of comfort zone: jones fought at HW while Jcal fought legends in US

 

consider the opponents of jones managed to be champion after the jones fight whereas only kessler became champion in the calzaghe resume

 

Honestly im about to take the Lords name in vain. Why did you even sign up to ESB when its clear you`ve only been watching boxing since yesterday? You actually think theres some validity in comparing Jones record to Calzaghe?!?!?! Speechless.

 

JC opposition that is top 100 at the time he fights them are kessler, lacy and bhop

 

yall must have forgot

 

Well lets just look at a list of say their 5 best wins.

Joe Calzaghe

1. Benard Hopkins, who was old, Calzaghe close UD. However, he did go on to beat Pavlik to me this is clearly Joe's best win. HOF ATG fighter

2. Chris Eubank, weight drained veteran, who was past his best. But still a very good win, in his first ever title fight. Clear UD. HOF

3. Mikkel Kessler, a very good fighter, who is better than his record suggests. Has done nothing of note after getting beat by Joe, very good win, could go on to be a great win depending on what Kessler does.

4. Jeff Lacy, imo a matter of how Calzaghe beat him rather than him being a very good fighter, he never beat any fighters of note and has not done anything after fighting Calzaghe.

5. Robin Reid, tough fight. Against a good fighter. Joe Eeked out a UD.

Roy Jones Jr

1. James Toney, P4P 2, who was the favorite going into the fight, who was weight drained. A clearly better win than Calzaghe's best win, in both significance and mannor of victory. ATG HOF

2. Bernard Hopkins, Physically at his peak, but a little green, as was Jones. Jones won 8 or 9 rounds with a broken hand against a great fighter. HOG ATG fighter.

3. John Ruiz, not the biggest name, but a multi-time HW belt holder, who has fought a lot of very good fighters. Discounting the Tua fight, was never beaten more clearly. Outweighed Roy by about 30lbs.

4. Virgil Hill, Very good fighter, infact had 20 defences of the WBA LHW strap, not much different to a lot of Calzaghe's reign at SMW, before the Lacy fight. Roy KO'd him with a body punch. Very good win. Great fashion

5. Montell Griffin. KO1. Griffin gave an unmotivated Jones a very very good fight in their first encounter. Roy had something to prove in this fight and prove it he did.

Roy's 5 best wins are better.

But that is not the main point. Who does Joe have after those wins?

Jones has,
old Mike McCallum

Thulani Malinga who beat Robin Reid and Nigel Benn as well as losing a SD to Eubank (a better Eubank than Calzaghe fought),

Reggie Johnson a belt holder at MW and LHW, beat Steve Collins and arguably beat Toney. Roy beat him badly.

Jorge Castro, a veteran who Roy fought in his 20th fight. WBA MW champion, and has fought for titles all the way up to CW.

as well as Tarver.

I have not added all the belt holders he beat either who would be compareable to Riche Woodall et al.

Really its not close at all

 

Jones is way ahead in all departments, its a waste of energy to divulge. If you cant see that, find another sport.

On another note, which beat a better version of Bhop?

 

The Toney and Hopkins victorys came when those men were in there physical primes. To date Joe does not have one ATG or legit HOF material opponent on his resume that he met in there physical prime.

Jones dominance was clear right from middleweight up to heavyweight. He won titles in all those divisions and annexed 8 titles once at 175. He was listed in the P4P rankings for decade without loosing a round and barely a fight (no point in counting his DQ loss to Griffin). Thats dominance that Joe Calzaghe hasnt even come close too.

Even in the twilight of his career when most were betting against Jones to loose he humilated Ruiz up at heavy punctuating himself as the BEST fighter on the planet and back on top of the P4P rankings. Joe has never even been ranked as the best fighter on the planet let alone had a win as historic and significant as that. I dont see any comparison whatsoever. Surfing boxrec and looking at statistics is pointless. Jones fought Ruiz. Joe wouldnt even fight Chad Dawson or Pavlik and cited a myriad of excuses.

 

He wasn't even a top ten ranked fighter anymore. When you see some of the junk that makes the top ten rankings, the fact that they left a name like Chris' out says a lot about the state he was in as a boxer.

We also all know about the few weeks he was given notice to get ready, and the weight issues.

Oh, and losing twice afterwards to a man who only ever held the WBO title once and failed to ever successfully defend it - does not mean a boxer still had it either.

 

Similarly you can ask... if you want to ask questions like this...

What makes Calzaghe's achievements much better than Valuev's 44-0?

err... better quality oponents....