Prime Roy Jones vs Prime Joe Calzaghe @ 168!

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  1. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best part of this thread.
     
  2. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    Nice post
     
  3. KDot10

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    I second that:good
     
  4. Monticello

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    Roy Jones by close, but comfortable decision.
     
  5. Calzaghe #1

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    The way I see it is this, not only has Jones declined but so has Joe
    He isnt the same boxer anymore either, his first 9 pro fights he tkod or kod them in the first two rounds by 97 his hands were shot to pieces and he relied more on boxing and what a boxer.
    Roy Jones was an incredible fighter BUT he was always vulnerable by the way he also dropped his hands and showboats, most of his opponents stood there and admired while he surgically picked them apart.
    Joe is relentless right now he throws 1000 punches a fight and lands a great deal he used to throw more
    I would give calzaghe a chance in this fight to outpoint Roy in a great fight full of skill, movement and playing to the crowd.
    It would be close but I would say calzaghe on points
     
  6. imp4pdabest

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    LoL. I guess you just forgot about opposition.
     
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    :patsch
     
  8. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    Jones by late stoppage.

    I just think Roy was faster and stronger.

    Hell, he dropped Cal with a forearm, for ****s sake!

    Not takin' away from Joe, I like the guy. I welcome his retirement.

    But against a primed Roy, nunthuh!
     
  9. nezy37

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    Jones wins by a fairly wide margin, 8 rounds to 4 or so. I see him landing the bigger shots but Joe would steal some rounds with volume.

    JOe is a damn good fighter, and I don't see Roy KOing him or mopping the floor with him either.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RJJ late KO. Joe's aggression would be his undoing in this one. He will be fighting a fighter who is faster than him both in terms of hand speed and foot speed, faster, stronger, bigger, and better reflexes. RJJ does everything better than Joe in his prime.
     
  11. homebrand

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    I'll post what I wrote in another thread:

    Prime Calzaghe vs a prime Roy Jones would have been a classic fight.

    But people who say Prime Jones would have easily beaten Calzaghe are kidding themselves.

    Calzaghe was a machine. Incredible endurance, always raised his game as needed to beat his opponents.

    It would have all in most probability have been a classic and very close fight, but personally i would have Calzaghe coming out on top. Jones arguably had the edge on power. In terms of speed, regardless what some might say, there isn't much to chose between them. Calzaghe had the better stamina over twelve rounds, lands more punches, and even though it's clearly a bone of contention for some, let's face it, Joe also had the better chin.

    But either way, let's just stop all this propaganda bull**** that Jones would have unquestionably won. Especially claims of a knockout. There's very little evidence to back this up. Joe was only knocked down a couple times in his whole career, and these were flash knockdowns - he was never in any danger of not making the count. The overwhelming evidence says both men were incredibly hard to beat in their prime, and in the case of Calzaghe, even more so.

    As I said, close fight, but I reckon Calzaghe would get the decision.
     
  12. klion22

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    Their hand speed might've been somewhat comparable but when you compared the amount of pop behind their punches, the disparity is wider. Of course you can get off a lot of punches when you're slapping but RJJ's packed power behind his flashy combinations.

    As for the second part, he didn't face a PRIME RJ. Let's just leave it at that. And yeah, i'm saying prime RJ would've beaten him convincingly.
     
  13. pjo479

    pjo479 brooklyn brawler Full Member

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    ok people first off this fight would be a nightmare for 2 reasons 1 jones was already fighting for 4 yrs before he moved up to smw his first official fight at that weight was against thulani malinga in august of 93 and he had already had the mw title secondly calzaghe didnt even start his career yet his first fight came in oct of that 93 so how the **** in the world could anyone with boxing knowledge even compare these 2 guys at that time jones was 22-0 with 20 ko's and 2 decisions calzaghe was a no one get real people prime jones destroys joe c and im not knocking calzaghe but im sorry he was no one at this point
     
  14. homebrand

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    Two things: Calzaghe's punches were harder than mere 'slapping'. Yeah, he developed an unconventional style of throwing punches - but there was still deceptive power in a lot of his shots. Not all of them would be power shots, but he would get them in during a lot of his flurries. Try telling Lacy or RJJ Calzaghe had no power.

    Secondly, Joe was always a very busy fighter, but adapted this style more in the later fights of his career due to busting his hands too many times. He used to throw a lot more power shots, just look at his fight with Byron Mitchell for example, but he kept breaking is hands - and it's hard to train or even win a fight with broken hands. So, towards the end of his carer, he went more for volume of punches then power punches. But rest assured, Joe had the power when he wanted it.

    But really, to claim one guy would beat an undefeated boxer 'easily' earlier in his career would be a bit optimistic. Sure I can accept some people, especially fans, might expect Roy to win, but it would never be easy to defeat an undefeated boxer. This is just common sense.
     
  15. klion22

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    I know Joe was pretty special in his own right but this is a prime Roy Jones here, maybe the most physically gifted fighter EVER. Joe's aggression would've been perfect for RJJ's and his amazing countering skills. Actually, the more aggressive his opponents were, the more likely they would've been KOed. Guys who went the distance against RJ were guys who played it safe as RJ usually didn't go after guys unless if he was forced to fight. I.e. when guys were coming at him. That presented RJ with so many countering abilities.

    Still think RJ via late KO because of Joe's aggression.