"Sugar" Ray Robinson vs Roberto Duran

Never seen Robinson at 135 so I dont have a prediction but I do know that Duran was a beast at that weight.

 

co-sign, i've barely seen footage of him at 147, but if he's anything like he was at 147 or even 160 for that matter, i'd take Ray by KO

 

Duran by TKO. There's a huge difference between this matchup as the weight class changes; anything after LW, I would take SSR.

 

Have you even seen SRR at 135 :huh Does any footage even exist?

 

where have ya'll seen full fights of him at LW? i damn near raped the internent for some, and could never find any....or did ya'll buy it off some ebay type sight or something?

or are ya'll just very old? (no offense)

 

Never seen Rob at 135, no result here would suprise me.

 

Thats fair logic, i can agree with that :good

I just don't understand when people make predicitons about fighters they havent seen or about fighters who they havent seen at a weight.

Not particularly about this matchup, but i browse the classics sometimes and the predictions/ratings about fighters where no or such little footage exists just bewilderes me.....It's an impossible task to say accurately what these fighters were like

 

Yeah I understand where your coming from, especially about learning about the fighter in question. I would love to know more about these old time guys but I still need to work through all the actual footage that exists of the great fighters, and that will take me a lifetime i reckon.

But when delving into these old fight reports and records and then expressing an opinion on the fighter in question, surely its just repeating other peoples opinions on the fighter, it isnt really your own...because thats all you can go on.

For example if a fight report said a certain old time fighter showed great speed in a fight, when compared to a modern fighter someone might state 'his speed would be too much to handle'.

You don't really know he was that quick, just the guy who watched that particular fight thought he look quick.

But anyways I'm sure when i'm older and I've learnt more about the oldtimers i'll be predicting and ranking the guys I haven't seen, i'm sure it's still interesting to do so.

 

You "barely" saw a footage of him at 147? Which footage would that be (i.e. against who)?

As far as I know, there has never any footage of him at 147.

 

Robinson would be a very weight drained figther. Duran woulkd beat him all around but at higher weight classes no chance for Duran

 

Ray was too green to compete with the physical beast that was the 135lb Duran.