Weight and punching power

We're talking fat weight here :huh

If anything, being more "powerful" (because of fat, it's ridiculous really) will not help you if you go up in weight class, and it will help even less if you can't land it. Weight classes indeed exist for a reason, and there aren't many fatties in the lower weight classes. Perhaps they haven't read your theory yet.

Those 48 pounds of lard will likely prevent him from being fast and agile. Not being agile, he will not get his weight behind punches like he would at a more reasonable weight.

Perhaps boxers should go up in weight by gaining fat then :nut

Not in boxing mate.

 

Yeah, just look at those super-fast heavyweights.

Perhaps we should divide divisions up based on speed :nut

 

RDJ, you are confusing being effective with the force of a punch.

Weight has nothing to do with fat. It is a force.

F=ma.

 

No I am not. I know there are two separate issues being discussed, I just think the ability to land something is not irrelevant.

You are oversimplifying matters by not letting the "A" into your equation as it's difficult to measure like you said. Besides, more M by fat means less A that was kind of the point.

 

Then we agree, as I suspected.

 

I don't think we do, but I'm at peace with that.

 

yes i know because butterbean told me so:yep

 

i didn't think a middleweight would be going down to flyweight how about a middleweight who goes down to welter? =|

 

Newton's second law isn't the important factor here (in terms of incredibly simplified science). What matters is transfer of kinetic energy ((1/2).m.v^2) to the target (conservation of momentum, intertia blah blah etc..), so velocity plays more of a role - however the change in velocity as a percentage is probably much less than the change in mass between a strawweight and a heavyweight.

Anyway, this has very little to do with the OP. We're only interested in the change of mass (due to flab) for one person not the relative change in power between people of naturally different sizes.

 

Your punching power does not vary too much with changes in mass. On HBO Larry Merchant asked Roy Jones if his punching power went up as he rose through the divisions. Jones replied that it remained the same. That is the honest answer in keeping with the traditions of boxing. In this forum there are a bunch of techno-nerds who claim that featherfists can be magically transformed into punchers, but as yet they have not shown us the evidence.

Just get in shape and improve your boxing skills. Punching power is determined by your genes so it isn't worth worrying about.

 

Weight does matter...Even fat. I'm only 5'6, 165 and have really no fat. I take a hell of a punch..A lot of my focus the last 2 years was building my traps/ neck (to absorb a punch), and my legs. Fighting a guy my weight I can usually eat there punches. I haven't met anybody at around 160 that is physichally as strong as me (wether it be boxing, or wrestling around). If I fight somebody much bigger though (as I usually prefer to do) I can definitely feel that ****. Wether there muscled, fat, etc.
I would said the importance of a punch would be:
1) Tecnique/ experience
2) Speed
3) Power

If a big guy has proper tecnique, decent speed, HES DAMN SURE GOT THE POWER!! Those guys that don't have proper tecnique, no speed...Make no mistake about it though...If they do hit you they will hurt you, but those aren't the people I worry about. I weigh 165. I got a fatass 250 pds that lands about 250 pds of force on to my face...I guarantee I'm going to be hurting more than some quick dude at 160 landing on me.
It does matter on the individual though, but as they say "a good big man always beats a good small man."

 

sorry guys but im gonna have to mention tyson LOL. I try not to use him because hes so overused but i think hes a relevent example. Remember mike before prison. When he was young. He weighed alot less. Maybe up to 20 pounds. He was killing guys with his speed and power. Then he came out of jail really buff. He wasnt the same fighter anymore. And i DOUBT his power increased significantly. I think people confuse being the naturally bigger man(with bone mass as is in weight class) with fat and muscle.

 

bad example...in my humble opinion:good

 

...........My goodness. I cant believe what I'm reading here.

 

oh my word...i have 100 posts