The Klitshcko legacy myth - the fanboys theory.......

This talk about Wlad being ATG is ridiculous, he is not, but he does have a chance to become one depending on how his career develops from now on. It will certainly take years though.

On the other hand, there are people stating that there are dozens of HW ATGs out there, mentioning names like Bowe, Ezzard Charles and several others and that's BS. A fighter does not make ATG status for becoming a deserving champ, that's HOF status, to become an ATG there is more to it. If the bar is that low for an ATG then Wlad is certainly making a case for it.

I'd say there are no more than 15 names who should be mentioned in the HW ATG list.

 

Wlad WAS toughing it out against Puritty, and the corner jumped in and stopped it while Wlad was on his feet eating flush shots, to exhausted to properly defend himself... but he was still standing and still toughing it out. Have you seen the fight?

Wlad clearly had something wrong with him vs Brewster. A 2nd grader could see that something was wrong with Wlad's health well before Brewster landed anything meaningful. Brewster himself said that Wlad was gasping for air in the 2nd round.

Wlad clearly showed his mental toughness vs Sanders. He could have easily stayed down, but he kept getting up until the ref had to step in. Wlad was even right back up on the last knockdown.

Wlad also showed his mental toughness vs Peter by getting off of the canvas, regaining dominating command of the fight and not just holding on and surviving to win... but boxing Peter's ears off in the last two rounds, showing his Champion's heart.

Wlad has ALWAYS shown mental toughness. So, that's another bull**** remark that you can strike from the daily nonsense that you slide into your posts.

 

Our opinions differ in this matter, but they way you see it, is now how view it. In the puritty fight, his corner had no choice, but to throw in the towel, young Wlad wasnt even covering up properly. Anyone could fall apart towards the end, only the tough find a way out of a tough situation and win.

Against Brewster he ran out of gas again, when your 6'6 close to 250, you cant throw that many power shots, unless you want to die out by the later rounds. Brewster also landed alot of good body shots early, which probably didnt help Wlad's cause much. Another fight he was dominated throughout, but his lack of stamina let him down again, and when the going tough he panicked and lost.

His fight against Peter I will give him some credit, he did survive the knockdowns and pressure, though he did have his moments where he looked to be on the verge of another breakdown at times during that fight. His jab and grab style and Peter's lack of experience got him the win that night, a tough one it was.

 

Yes, I had a theory once that it were the body shots that killed Klitschko. And I think that Calvin Brock's trainer believed that, too, thus he went for the body in their fight.

But look at every in-between round: Klitschko collapses. He is finished even AFTER ROUND 1.

I mean, I am not claiming that Brewster was involved in poisoning Wlad or something of that sort, but ANYONE would have KOed Wlad in round 5.

All the hits that Brewster could land WERE BECAUSE of the collapsing and not vice versa.

This is was Vitali said in a TV interview: That the blood samples after the fight showed a sugarlevel nearly leading to a hyperglucaemic coma. Although this might have been an exaggeration by Vitali, nevertheless it's noteworthy.

Then we watched different fights. Wlad in no round seemed fine, except maybe the first one.

Watch the Puritty fight: THERE you can see Wlad GAS: after 11 rounds of constant boxing (far more than against Brewster). If you want to see a Wlad COLLAPSING watch the Brewster fight. It's a big difference.

What decent shots? Name the round and time. And even if there were some: It's BECAUSE of Wlad's strange condition that Brewster could land them.

Then you are deducting too much from a SINGLE fight. Moreover it has been avenged, so you are deducting WAY too much.

 

So what are YOUR standards for an ATG?

 

Wladimir is a title holder in a weak era of heavyweight boxing. His resume is ok, nothing specail. Unless he goes on to do greater things then all he will be remebered as is....a world title holder in a weak era with an average resume.

 

Another career that makes Wladimir's future look really positive is Larry Holmes. Larry Homes didn't knock fighters out with one punch and was Champion in a very mediocre era. Despite these facts, the Homes Hammer is considered an ATG at heavyweight.

 

Again, the verdict is still out on Wladimir...he is only 32 and hasn't even begun to write his final chapter. He is still learning the game and getting more confident with every fight. Wait another 3 years and then evaluate Wlad's performance as a title holder or Champion.

 

Neither has Haye, and he won't.

Yes, it matters. :deal

 

This is merely an attempt to rationalize the irrational. This fight was in no way a mental dillema, but a physical one. After round 4, Wlad looked halfway to death. In his corner, Wlad couldn't even open up his mouth to drink water. There was something physically wrong with Wlad that night...I am not claiming foul play, but just pointing out that he was not healthy. This was the reason for the loss.

The only positive thing that Brewster did during that fight was to stay on his feet.

Please don't try to break this fight down and make sense of what happened...there are just too many holes.

 

I agree 100%, IMHO the Klitschko only bros. "rule" the heavyweight division by deafult due to lack of top competeators.

 

He threw that many against Ray Mercer with no problem...again if you did in fact watch the fight again, you would know that Brewster wasn't putting that much pressure on Wlad...nothing out of the ordinary. Again, it sounds like you're trying to reationalize the irrational.

 

He left no doubt as to how tough and how gifted he is when he battered Brew into submission:dead, while throwing a no-hitter.
Forget about the first fight, Wlad is heads and shoulders above Brew level fighters and is still making waves.
The great Joe Louis came back to batter Schmeling and left him in the dust and went on to be great.
Wlad's at least as tough and great as Joe, as the current heavyweight crop is finding out... he's fighting better comp than Joe, too.:deal