How Great was Ken Buchannan ?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I think Duran was improving all the time so I can't give Ken much of a chance in the rematch,but he should have had the opportunity.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i did think Ken in the first fight held back a bit in the first few rounds as he thought duran would egt tired
     
  3. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran has said at other times Dejesus,Hagler, Leonard and so on were his toughest opponents.

    I would take the Buch thing with a pinch of salt.It seeme Duran had a differet answer for those kind of questions very time he was asked.
     
  4. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont disagree, Duran was improving.

    I just think that Ken was ultimately an unlucky boxer, he lost his first fight controversially to a Spaniard in Spain {people say he was robbed}, he then went on to fight Laguna in Puerto Rico in 120 degrees, claiming an excellent win, he then ran into Duran at MSG, only to be hit a low blow after the bell, he did not receive a rematch and then after fighting his way back up the ladder to gain another shot at the World title, he controverasially lost to a Jap in Japan.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i havent saw the ishamatsu fight but i beleive it was fairly controversial scoring with some people claiming ken won
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AWwww noooo.

    Ken was from Edinburgh? ****. I thought he was Glaswegian!!
    He's just moved down my fave Scottish boxers. I now place him behind Watt and Clinton. Thats right I'm placing him bellow a guy from Croy!!

    All seriousness, absolute brilliant lightweight. I was 6 when he retired but I remember the nights with my old man sitting in his chair listening to the radio swinging away at thin air. Only as an adult I've really paid attention to footage of the man.

    Brilliant fighter. Good post:good
     
  7. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Its very true. Its not the English people, its the English media. For instance when Andy Murray came out and lost a couple of matches earlier in his career i'll never forget watching the sports channell over here and them calling him Scottish - great, because he is.
    But I just knew as soon as he became a success story they would claim him as Britains Andy Murray in tournaments and so on, and low and behold, they did. Its the way it always is with the press down there, and hence why a lot of Scots have a grudge against the English.:think
    I personally just hate the English Media, those general Engulanders are cool with me.:good

    Anyway, its very sad that Ken is so underappreciated now, not by boxing purists but by the general British public. He is no where near as well off as he should be, and many joe averages in the street, even right HERE in Edinburgh, will guess at fighters like Barry McGuigan and Frank Bruno being greater fighters than Ken - I mean of course they are, they are on tv all the time:twisted:.

    In a way it is unfortunate he is from here in Edinburgh and not Glasgow, because you best believe if he was a native of Scotland's biggest city, he would be one of Scotlands most famous sportsmen ever. And rightly so. People are very passive here in Edinburgh.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Ken was going to be a great boxer in the 70' after watching him fight in MSG and the FELT FORUM a few times. I remember asking Nat Fleicher of Ring Magazine his thought and that was before the Duran fight and Nat said he is very good but not Great. Buchannan could box, he had good feet, decent hand speed and power and was gritty but when he met a Great fighter in Duran...the cream rose to the top
     
  9. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was a fan of his, back then. I thought he was just a supurb boxer.
    I was pissed at the blind ref and the low blow.

    You do know that Duran never unified? He had enough years to have done so.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He did not but he was the lineal Champ and most felt Duran was head and shoulders over the rest but I agree dispite politics or money a true Champ should try and unify and that is one thing I have against Holmes and Bowe, they should have unified
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I think the Sweaties grudge against us English goes a bit deeper than that!
    Culloden? Croft burning?etc
     
  12. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Very true. I'm just pointing out what irks many a Scot nowadays.:good
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Yes I have an Indian friend,when Panesar does well he is British ,until he flops.Murray is the best male player from the UK,in my lifetime [60years],but I consider him Scottish ,as I am sure he does .I read somewhere he doesnt care too much for the patronization he gets from us ,can't say as I blame him.
     
  14. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    did he not unify against Dejesus :huh
     
  15. markedwardscott

    markedwardscott Active Member Full Member

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    He beat some very good fighters and Duran said he was his toughest opponent. He should have gotten a better deal when Duran hit him low--at least time to recover.