P4P: Which has more Weight to you, Accomplishment or Who would beat Who?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In your personal p4p rankings, which has more weight to you...resume/accomplishment OR your perception of who beats who?
     
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    You have to balance both...for example... I have Vic Darchinyan rated higher than Nonito Donaire.

    Yes, Donaire beat Darchinyan but since their fight Vic has destroyed Donaire's competition.

    Since their fight...
    Donaire is 2-0 (2ko's) against Maldonaodo, and Mthalane... respectable opposition, but not the top fighters in their division.

    Darchinyan is 4-0-1 (3 ko's) with wins against Mijares, Arce, and Kirilov. All which are top 10 fighters, with Mijares regarded a top 10 p4p guy when they fought. The draw against Z Gorres was highly controversial, and he is also rated in the top 10. He's basically cleaned out the 115 pd. division in the span of months.

    So even though head to head Donaire is one up Darchinyan, I rate Darchinyan higher based on his current run.

    That's just an example of recent accomplishment over head to head.
     
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    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    great example :good

    another one, it would be silly to rate Margarito above Cotto now simply for the fact Margo beat him
     
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    If you are a Mayweather fan, I`d say Donaire is UNBEATEN. And he KO`ed Darchinian. Unless that is resolved, I`d rank Donito higher. Donito just had hard luck on challenging elite fighters due to promoter problems, he`s truly an under-rated fighter.
     
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    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you feel should they fight again, Donaire would kick vics lil arce once again?
     
  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i always believe that...in the lest 2-3 years, bhop had accomplish more than Jcal. But why is JC ranked higher than Bhop in the p4p rankings?
     
  8. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    can somebody erase the loss of cotto there...better make it a no contest rather than award the win to somebody that is stained with controversy
     
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  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    vernon is not even top 40, but when he beats mosley, suddenly he's top 10...
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Ask the Floyd fanboys, Who's a more impressive win: beating baldomir or beating Paul Williams.
     
  12. imp4pdabest

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    Yes, just because he was unknown, he can still be a top 10 fighter. And he proved his first win wasn't a fluke, ala Quintana, he defeated Mosley twice.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Typical... :patsch
     
  14. imp4pdabest

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    Of course.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Figures a floyd ****** like you would equate money made as being the biggest accomplishment.