Does Juan Manuel Lopez Deserve to be Top 15 P4p?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by asero, Feb 11, 2009.


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  1. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Just outside my top 20.

    Guzman doesnt have any power against credible opponents.

    Lopez does.
     
    Guru_Too_You, Feb 16, 2009
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  2. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Credible opponents?

    As far as I'm concerned he has 1, who was very over-rated in the first place.

    So on the basis that power has a big place in your ranking, I presume you have Juan Diaz outside your top 100?
     
    TommyV, Feb 16, 2009
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  3. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice avatar bro. I have that as my profile pic.:good
     
    EL-MATADOR, Feb 16, 2009
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  4. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top 15 no way!
    He has the potential to be top 5 in the next couple of years but i don't rate De Leon and the Madina fight was a farce.
    If he beats Penalosa he's in my top 25.
     
    ninebar, Feb 16, 2009
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  5. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You base Your P4P lists on power??:huh
     
    EL-MATADOR, Feb 16, 2009
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  6. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    not yet
     
    jaffay, Feb 16, 2009
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  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Purely on head to head, I think he's probably top 5 right now, but he doesn't have one of the 30 or 40 best resumes out there. He still needs to step up and face someone who's highly regarded before getting up there. His best win by far is still PDL, and that's just not the type of win to get you into the P4P.
     
    Brickhaus, Feb 16, 2009
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  8. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
    catasyou, Feb 16, 2009
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  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    resume, he is not top 15 but p4p also consider potential and perception...its up to you to provide what percentage would you give to percepion because for sure lopez would be favored over caballero if they fight today
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
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  10. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like I said before the P4P concept is nothing but promotional bull****!! I don't believe in P4P rankings. I like division rankings and that's it.
     
    Ricky369, Feb 16, 2009
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  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^^who would you ranked higher? lopez or caballero?
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
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  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    wow you people are vastly overrating JML

    other than Deleon he and Rey Bautista basically have the same resume
     
    Boom_Boom, Feb 16, 2009
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  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JML is a great fighter, but he is still a baby.
    One day he may be considered as one of the top P4P fighters.
    But right now he still has alot more knocking out to do.
    He still hasnt fought the best.
     
    rodney, Feb 16, 2009
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  14. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Is this a joke thread ?

    **** me. Honestly guys, ESB has outdone itself again.

    Lets see a fighter develop, prosper, get into contention before we start hailing him the 2nd comming.

    Ffs honestly you dumbasses never learn
     
    yesihavearm2, Feb 16, 2009
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  15. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    juanma wont be top15 even if he beats penalosa. he should be top 15 if he beats any of the other title holders at his weight. gerry is skilled and all but he is best days are clearly behind him. and gerry was defeated by de leon who was kod in one by juanma. so lopex does not get a lot of points by defeating gerry
     
    theunderdog, Feb 16, 2009
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