Does Juan Manuel Lopez Deserve to be Top 15 P4p?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by asero, Feb 11, 2009.

Page 5 of 6
  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    86,106
    Likes Received:
    4,096
    I don't believe in P4P, it's a bunch of bull.
     
    Farmboxer, Feb 16, 2009
    #61
  2. ripper13

    ripper13 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,226
    Likes Received:
    0
    are you saying that gerry boxed so badly that he made the one dimensional, plodding PDL the boxer in the fight?:huh
     
    ripper13, Feb 16, 2009
    #62
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309
    everybody seems to outwork gerry...gerry is a small guy but when he punches it's right on target..sadly it is overshadowed by his lack of voluminous punches
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
    #63
  4. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    0
    Where the **** is Kessler ?

    He beat Pavlik and Taylor on the same night :deal!
     
    TomaTos, Feb 16, 2009
    #64
  5. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    11,166
    Likes Received:
    0
    obviously, doesn't everyone? thats why Joe "The Wrecking Machine" Calzaghe was a top 3 P4P fighter b4 he retired....
     
    Monstar, Feb 16, 2009
    #65
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309

    he's a spot behind taylor...i put my money on taylor versus kessler
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
    #66
  7. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    0
    Actually, I disagree, people make their P4P based on accomplishment too much, that why so many « so called upset » happens every week/month.
     
    TomaTos, Feb 16, 2009
    #67
  8. TomaTos

    TomaTos Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    0
    I put my life on Kessler, he would totally destroy Taylor.
     
    TomaTos, Feb 16, 2009
    #68
  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Paul Williams
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Ricky Hatton

    11. Vic Darchinyan
    12. Chad Dawson
    13. Juan Manuel Lopez
    14. Nonito Donaire
    15. Kelly Pavlik
    16. Celestino Caballero
    17. Vitalai Klitschko
    18. Wladimir Klitschko
    19. Jermain Taylor
    20. Mikkel Kessler
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
    #69
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309
    it's crazier to put caballero ahead of lopez
     
    asero, Feb 16, 2009
    #70
  11. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    6,263
    Likes Received:
    0
    The kid has massive talent to be a top p4p fighter but right now he has not accomplish enough to merit a top 15 p4p.
     
    kalunya5964, Feb 16, 2009
    #71
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309
    p4p must not be 100% resume...i guess it's fair to factor in certain percentage to skill and talent as well as the fighter he could beat...that's why i do not understand why some do not put victor ortiz outside the top 10 of 140
     
    asero, Feb 17, 2009
    #72
  13. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,032
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's not about potential or who he could beat, it's about what you've done to deserve a spot.
    P4P is 100% merit, H2H, resume, Accomplishments defiantly not Potential.
     
    ninebar, Feb 17, 2009
    #73
  14. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309
    yahoosports has lopez at 15th spot
     
    asero, Feb 17, 2009
    #74
  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    17,373
    Likes Received:
    309

    consider also overall ability buddy...
     
    asero, Apr 21, 2009
    #75
Page 5 of 6