My Personal Pound for Pound Top 30...

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Israel Vazquez
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Miguel Cotto
    7. Paul Williams
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Ricky Hatton
    11. Vic Darchinyan
    12. Chad Dawson
    13. Juan Manuel Lopez
    14. Kelly Pavlik
    15. Nonito Donaire
    16. Celestino Caballero
    17. Vitalai Klitschko
    18. Wladimir Klitschko
    19. Jermain Taylor
    20. Mikkel Kessler
    21. David Haye
    22.Tomasz Adamek
    23. Arthur Abraham
    24. Fernando Montiel
    25. Joan Guzman
    26. Humberto Soto
    27. Chris John
    28. Andre Berto
    29. Jorge Linares
    30. Ulises Solis
    31. Joshua Clottey
    32. Roman Gonzales
    33. Tim Bradley
    34. Nate Campbell
    35. Edgar Sosa



    i strive to make a p4p list so the higher ranked fighter would beat the lower ranked. this is based on perception of which fighters can the p4p fighters beat. accomplishment and resume are a big factor in my personal perception

    i put lopez slightly lower than izzy and rafa bec i feel that if lopez fight either those 2, the fight would be too close to call. lopez would easily beat caballero

    i put mosley ahead of cotto, for i believe mosley would beat any fighter at 147 except pac if he moves up..ssm-cotto would be a close fight though.

    i put darchinyan over donaire because i feel that darchinyan would only lose to donaire and a 50-50 chance against montiel..Donaire on the other hand would have a harder time dealing with mijares and montiel compared to darchinyan. lastly, i think montiel is a close fight for any elite fighter 118 below

    i favor taylor to beat kessler in another close match. also, guerrero over linares and soto.

    im unsure how good guzman and campbell would be in their new division
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Ivan Calderon is imo overrated. He didn't look that good against Cazares and its not sure he would beat Solis.
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it's p4p..he is giving more than 12-15 pounds to cazares
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    at the weigh-in they are the same weight

    other fighters in that division are also giving up alot of weight to Cazares on fight night but he still has 3 other losses
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well yes, but can you just imagine if cazares is not that big, calderon would have no sweat beating him..
     
  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    JuanMa at 11 ? Really ?
     
  7. fabo1988

    fabo1988 Active Member Full Member

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    i would put juanma in my top 10, his resume doesnt have any big names on it yet but imo his ability warrents his place in my list.
     
  8. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

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    I think its a respectable list. Though I gotta agree with the yesihavearm2's objection to Juanma at being ranked at 11. He's a great kid with tons of potential but he hasn't really fought anyone of such a caliber to warrant such a high ranking. He's maybe 15 tops.
     
  9. asero

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    ^^^i just beat my p4p not purely on accomplishment. vasquez and marquez can not KO this guy.. but donaire would KO VD, bhop KO'd pav, and dawson can not dispatch johnson with ease...common, juanma deserve his spot...we all know he is at par with izzy and rafa
     
  10. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    that logic is flawed, if that was the case then Cotto should be above Mosley but under Margarito, and Taylor should be above Hopkins, but under Pavlik, and Chris John should be in the top 5 at the very least
     
  11. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad Klitschko deserves a higher ranking. He has ruled his division for years now.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he would not rule the division if he had the same size as his opponents..p4p rankings is biased against HWs...notice how lennox lewis is only in the 10th place for less than 6 months..that is after he beats tyson
     
  13. adamsutherland

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    juanma hasnt faced a fantastic opponent yet, its like rating amir khan before the prescott fight, if juanma disposes of penalosa easily then maybe he is high up p4p but atm he isnt top 30
     
  14. asero

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    it is like a round robin..hypothetical match up p4p... i say, pacquiao would not lose to anybody..the #1 is the guy with lowest number of losses.

    i feel that darchinyan with be more dominant to other fighters compared to donaire but if they fight again donaire would beat VD again...

    taylor may have beaten bhop. but p4p he would lose to many other guys. marquez is a different fighter now compared to his fight with john

    i put cotto below mosley because at this stage nobody can beat mosley at 147 except pac..
     
  15. asero

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    juanma is at par with izzy and rafa..if he fights them today, the odds would be close..khan has never been in the same league as campbell, diaz or casamayor. if khan fight diaz, he would be a 3-1 underdog