Let's put an end to the BULL**** about the contract: Wlad/Haye

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Feb 18, 2009.


  1. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    This is what I have been posting for the last three days . . . since when did you people hear a challenger get's a crack at all the titles being stipulated in one copntract ???

    Haye is a ****i'n *****!

    And for people hating on Wlad and blaming him for failed negotiation . . . please take an IQ TEST. :deal

    :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol:
     
  2. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Haye used to be a member of ESB and posted on the british forum before the big crash in 2004.

    I wish he'd come on here and tell WiDDoW to STFU! :yep

    C'mon Dave i know you are reading.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    :yep:good
     
  4. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah widdow talks a lot crap
     
  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Adam Booth and Team haye want this fight so bad they have given GB Ceo the green light to handle this situation. Schafer and Finkel will work out a deal.
     
  6. imp4pdabest

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    it never ends
     
  7. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Believe me team klitschko will found something new to put in the contract to stop that fight!
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    BECAUSE HE ISN'T BEING ALLOWED TO CONTROL HIS OWN FUTURE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE WANTS IT OR NOT.

    Jesus.

    What about his purse for the Vitali fight? What if he wants to negotiate that himself, instead of the Vitali's team being able to dictate it because Haye would be contractrual obliged to face Vitali, and would therefore have to accept pretty much any purse that was offered to him.

    Even if his purse for a potential Vitali fight is arranged now, it would be signficantly lower now being only a heavyweight contender, than what he could hope to receieve being in the position to negotiate as the IBF & WBO heavyweight champion of the world.
     
  9. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Why can't they just have a normal fight?

    Why can't team Klitschko just sort out a fight between Haye and Wlad, pick the venue, sort the pay packets and let it rest, with a rematch clause to fight Wlad ONLY.

    Why are they making it so complex and potentially ruining the fight, and then running off to negotiate fighting the far less proven Chris Arreola?
     
  10. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    And you know all of this how? By reading what Haye's team said?
     
  11. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I know, as if Wladimir is so afraid of Haye :rofl Wlad went out of his way to clear his mandatory so this fight could even happen. That's what these haters are forgetting.............Haye hasn't done **** but run his mouth.
     
  12. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Haye was already offered a rather large amount for a voluntary defense. I have an inside source & no I won't disclose who it is or how much it was for. Let's just say it's more than he's worth since he can't deliver his end of the contract such as the original venue, etc.
     
  13. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I hope Herbie Haye is reading too:

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  14. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, you're right it isn't.

    And open options is EXACTLY the reason the K's use when refusing to unify titles with any Don King fighters, saying it's impossible to negotiate with him, and fight under those terms.

    But yet they expect somebody else to do the same?

    Rematch clauses, and OPEN OPTIONS are completely and totally different things.

    You can't assume that Vitaly would be next cab off the rank if Haye won - which Widdow is. Anyone with a brain looks at the letter of the contract, not the "oh, yeah, it would probaby be Vitaly" comments.

    IF Wlad wants a rematch clause, I think that's fine, as champ he's allowed that.

    But inserting a clause that means his options are gone is laughable, as it opens him up to this:

    1 - Beats Wlad
    2- wins the rematch.
    3 - Has a mando enforced by either IBF, WBO. K bros insist he fight Taurus Sykes. Loses belts due to not fighitng mando.
    4 - Wlad still #1 contender, fights The RAinman again for the belt. Wlad has lost 2 on the bounce, but is still able to get his belt back.

    That's very conceivable. Who the **** in their right mind would agree to that????
     
  15. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What if WALDO stops Haye on cuts whilst down on the cards? :good