Haye vs Klitschko off?

Pure opinion. Moreover WRONG. What was the best opponent of Marciano? 37-year-old shot Louis (213 lbs) in his last fight?

Insults, insults. Typical behaviour.

 

Wladimir is the No 1 Heavyweight!

 

Absolutely, Wladimir is The King!

 

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Very good criteria. But that's not what I asked for. If Neverchair claims that it's OH SO EASY to find someone who beats Wlad in the 4 categories then I am still waiting.

 

Aah, a hater at work. Insults, insults, no proof whatsoever.

= when it actually was easier to become undisputed world champion.

As if Wlad is the only one with losses on the record.

 

This is wrong. If Wlad would have never won a title and never have KOed anyone noone would consider him worthy for anything.

"Champion" is pure opinion. A record of 40+, 50+, 60+ fights tells much more than somebody's opinion. Especially opinions of Klitschko haters.

 

It's completely futile arguing with someone like knn. He's either a troll or has some serious social deficiencies, because he's unable to concede on anything. He doesn't want insults yet is being stubbornly ignorant. Boring.

 

The key is being undisputed champion, period. 50/60 fights look a lot better if you fought all the other guys claiming to be a champion. At this point Wlad is the "best" beltholder.

Being a champion is not opinion. It is fact. You win the major titles. There is no grey area.

 

More insults. THAT is boring.

 

Yes, being UNDISPUTED CHAMPION by winning all belts is not an opinion. However there were no 4-5 belts at Ali's time. Thus it's not as clear as I would like it.

 

That means Ali had to fight the best. It also means he had to defend against the best. Which is what he did, quite clearly.

The problem with holding a belt or two and defending is the opposition is at the discretion of the rankings of that particular organisation. There are routes to get fighters into particular rankings for one belt, it doesn't guarantee you are beating the best fighters around. Unifying the belts puts that beyond all doubt.

Wlad has yet to do so. And there are not 5 belts. 4 at the most, however the WBA, WBC and IBF will get you undisputed status in most peoples books.

 

Who was Wlad's best opponent? (Serious question, and you don't need to list his weight next to his name, clown. If weight is the all determining factor then Valuev is the best fighter in the world...ever.)

What's a boxing resume besides a list of opponents? If Waldo's list of opponents was better than any ATG HW then you wouldn't need those bull**** "categories". :deal

As long as you keep posting dumb **** you'll hear a lot more insults, so you better get used to them or stop posting.

 

I dunno, I think "T-Rex" Sanders could have Valuev trumped according to Amanda's logic.

 

Really?

And tell me again, what heavyweight Haye has beaten... ?