Haye vs Klitschko off?

He is a title holder, he is not The Hevyweight Champion of the World.

 

The whole of this dicussion, including 90% of what you have posted in this thread is "off-topic".

It's only off-topic when you find it difficult to reply, isn't it?

 

Negative!

Wladimir KlitschKO is The Hevyweight Champion of the World period. He has been dominating the division for few years.

 

I don't care what you're waiting for. A resume is who a guy fought, and that's all there is to it. Paper titles aren't worth ****. Wins and KOs are great, but it's who you get them against that really matters, and WALD has never beat anybody great...Never.

 

He is not linear/Ring champ. He has merely being ranked no.1 for a few years. He has not faced the no.2 or no.3 ranked HW to establish a lineage. The last Heavyweight Champion of the World was Lennox Lewis. All subsequent 'champions' have been/are titleholders.

 

Translation: Nobody. :yep

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Basically yes, "wins against high quality opposition"

But this is hard to calculate.

Moreover (as you can see by the insults now although we are merely dealing with FACTUAL resumees) a thread about the QUALITY of opposition (= based on opinion) would lead to slaughter.

Look, a simple statement of mine "With a record of 50-1 and 6 wins in heavyweight title fights Valuev is one of the best heavyweights ever" causes insults and more insults. How it cause insults when this is an obvious fact?

 

Hate can cause stomach upsets.

 

Where is this rule written? Who are the #2 and #3 ranked heavyweights Wlad hasn't faced?

 

Sucking on WALD's balls too long can cause serious delirium.

 

This thread is about Wlad-Haye being called off. So we are discussing whether Wlad makes a mistake (= he needs Haye) or Haye makes a mistake.
A previous poster assumed that Wlad needs Haye to "name up" his record. So I asked "Give me 5 boxers with a better record than Wlad" to counter this ridiculous statement.

So I am rather ontopic.

No, any elaboration of the records of Valuev etc _IS_ offtopic in this thread. Any comparison of Frazier to one of Wlad's opponents _IS_ offtopic. You can search for other posts of mine where I actually mention Frazier or Ali or Marciano.

 

Hmm, how come YOU know?

 

I have no doubt that you are struggling.

Will you name the other 4 boxers with a better resumee than Wlad? Or did you give up because you can't find any?

 

Yeah, quality of opposition would pretty much slaughter your idea that WALD is an ATG. :yep

All opponents being equal he would be, but they're clearly not, so he clearly isn't one of the best ever. Go have a look at the other thread where even your fellow Klit nuthuggers are laughing their asses off at that statement.