BOXING: Tragic Stories

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  1. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does anyone around the Detroit area remember around the 1993 period , a very established and capable amateur heavyweight just about to turn pro called Mark Rayner was shot in his car, in what was a mistaken identity car jacking incident.. i remember it vividly , it was sad because i met him once and we hung out a while, he was a very pure hearted cat, not a bad bone in his body.. God bless...
     
    Bigcat, Jan 11, 2009
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  2. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    tony ayala jr could possibly have been a huge star throughout the 80s and early/mid 90 its a pitty he couldnt keep his dick in his pants,
     
    faisal, Jan 11, 2009
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  3. SteveO

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    I remember reading that he can't leave his house (or his mother's house, wherever he lives) without having his address written on a piece of paper so someone can help him find his way back :verysad
     
    SteveO, Jan 11, 2009
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  4. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    1980 USA BOXING TEAM

    For all of us that have entered the boxing ring to face battle,
    we have all had our hopes, wishes and dreams. For some of the
    1980 USA boxing team such as Lemuel Steeples, there was
    hope and expections by many from St Louis and other places
    that Steeples would be the next Sugar Ray Leonard and a shining
    star of the Eighties in professional boxing. But, the hopes and dreams
    of the boxers, and expectations of others quickly turned to
    sorrow and pain after that tragic plane crash in March of 1980.

    For many folks involved in amateur boxing, they had great respect for
    Tom (Sarge) Johnson not only for the performance of the 1976
    USA Olympic Boxing teams in Montreal, but for his dedication and service
    to the sport of boxing. The loss of Sarge in 1980 was a tragedy, but the loss
    of the team was a tragedy of tragedies. The assistant coach lost was
    Y R Robles of California.

    For the Palomino family there was likely much joy with the
    performance of Carlos Palomino in the Seventies, but no joy for
    family and friends could outshine the pain and loss of Paul Palomino
    on that sad March 14 th. day.

    The story is the same for all that were lost from San Francisco
    to Hartford and New Bedford, from Biloxi and Troy to. Port Townsend.
    Some will remember, but it is likely very few current
    boxing fans in their twenties or thirties would remember
    Kelvin Anderson, Joe Bland, Bernie Callaghan, Elliot Chavez,
    Tyrone Clayton, Walter Harris, Byron Lindsey, Andre McCoy,
    Paul Palomino, Byron Payton, George Pimentel, John Radison,
    Chuck Robinson, Junior Robles, David Rodrigues, Steve Smiegel,
    Lemuel Steeples, Jerome Stewart, Dr. Ray Wesson, Lonnie Young
    and Tom Johnson.

    In the July 1980 issue of Hank Kaplan's World -Wide "Boxing Digest"
    there was a small piece on Steeples by Ron Copher titled
    "Lemuel Steeples - One of America's Great Amateurs".
    THe small piece did mention referee John Radison, but not
    other team members.

    I'm sure in the various local papers in March of 1980, there
    would have been many fine tributes, but that was years ago.
    In recognition of those lost members of the team, it would be great
    for a few folks to tell a little about those that were lost.

    And whatever happened to the one boxer that missed the plane
    by the name of Jimmy Clark from Pennsylvania.
     
    Brian Zelley, Jan 12, 2009
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  5. Jack Dempsey

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    The shameful treatment of Jimmy Bivins by his family springs to mind
     
    Jack Dempsey, Jan 12, 2009
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  6. True Writer

    True Writer Active Member Full Member

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    Its not tragic the guy is just a ****.
     
    True Writer, Jan 12, 2009
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  7. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    He slept with your sister????
     
    flamengo, Jan 12, 2009
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  8. The_Hitman92

    The_Hitman92 EST & Registered 2008 Full Member

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    Definatley. Not a tragedy to him, but a tragedy in the sense that us boxing fans missed out on getting to watch him in his career. Even if the guy is a dick he was a great fighter and I think would have went on to have a great career if he wern't such a **** up.
     
    The_Hitman92, Jan 12, 2009
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  9. dnr0720

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    After Deuk-Koo Kim's death against Mancini, The referee Richard Green commited suicide shortly after that, and Kim's mom died shortly after her son. Some say from a broken heart
     
    dnr0720, Jan 12, 2009
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  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, talk about fallout from a tragedy. Unbelievable.
     
    Russell, Jan 12, 2009
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  11. Nigel_Benn

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    Ricky Womack i dont know to much about the guy but he almost took Evanders spot on the 1984 Olympic team, Shared a room with Mike Tyson at those trials, He was 12-0 when he turned pro and was looking like a surefire world champion but he turned to his old life of guns and crime and got busted and sent down for 10 years. Shame.
     
    Nigel_Benn, Feb 19, 2009
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  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it gets to me too,the bloke got dealt a real shitty hand but if you were to mention all the bad luck stories here ,ie liston,charles,turpin,benny lynch etc etc ,you'd be here all year.then theres ****s like don king and all the other leaching promoter/manager/agents to stiff em.
    the mafia looks glamorous on the movie screen but how many fighters suffered at their hands(1000000s)
     
    turpinr, Feb 19, 2009
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  13. stonerose

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    Killed himself too didn't he ?
     
    stonerose, Feb 19, 2009
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  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Kim's mum killed herself too. :verysad
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Feb 19, 2009
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  15. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Wallace 'Bud' Smith gunned down while he talked to a girl on the streets. Bullet was supposedly intended for her.
     
    My dinner with Conteh, Feb 19, 2009
    My dinner with Conteh, Feb 19, 2009
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