Top 400 All Time Greats

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  1. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1] Sugar Ray Robinson
    2] Henry Armstrong
    3] Langford
    4] Greb
    5] Duran
    6] B.Leonard
    7] Wilde
    8] Ali
    9] Louis
    10] Pep
    11] Charles
    12] Fitzsimmons
    13] Gans
    14] R.Leonard
    15] Hagler
    16] Walker
    17] Moore
    18] Jofre
    19] Tunney
    20] Jack Johnson
    21] Monzon
    22] Whitaker
    23] B.Ross
    24] Saddler
    25] Canzoneri
    26] Salvador Sanchez
    27] Babadoes Joe Walcott
    28] Ketchel
    29] I.Williams
    30] Burley
    31] Marciano
    32] Jack Dempsey
    33] Roy Jones Jnr
    34] Holmes
    35] Dixon
    36] Cesar Charvez
    37] E.Griffith
    38] Arguello
    39] Holyfield
    40] Kid Gavilan
    41] Hearns
    42] Napoles
    43] Packey McFarland
    44] Freddie Welsh
    45] Driscoll
    46] C.Ortiz
    47] L.Lewis
    48] Mayweather Jnr
    49] Harada
    50] Britton
    51] Olivares
    52] M.Spinks
    53] Calzaghe
    54] Hopkins
    55] Wills
    56] W.Gomez
    57] foster
    58] Loughran
    59] LM Rodriquez
    60] Villa
    61] Al Brown
    62] M.Ortiz
    63] Dick Tiger
    64] Conn
    65] Attell
    66] Pascual Perez
    67] Canto
    68] McGovern
    69] Ted Kid Lewis
    70] Kid Chocolate
    71] Joe Brown
    72] Tiger Flower
    73] Cerdan
    74] Jeffries
    75] Basilio
    76] McLarnin
    77] T.Ryan
    78] Beau Jack
    79] Angott
    80] Pryer
    81] McCallum
    82] W.Benitez
    83] De La Hoya
    84] Billy Graham
    85] Gibbons
    86] Kilbane
    87] Blackburn
    88] Ambers
    89] Tyson
    90] H.Williams
    91] Liston
    92] Herman
    93] Philly Jack O'Brien
    94] Loi
    95] Cervantes
    96] Zarate
    97] Giardello
    98] Trinidad
    99] Buchanan
    100]Laguna
    101]Montgomery
    102]Barrera
    103]Dundee
    104]Zale
    105]Vicente Salvador
    106]LaBarba
    107]Kid Williams
    108]Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
    109]Elorde
    110]Genero
    111]Battling Nelson
    112]Rosenbloom
    113]La Motta
    114]Foreman
    115]Frazier
    116]R.Lopez
    117]Carpentier
    118]Locche
    119]Pacquiao
    120]Kane
    121]Jersey Joe Walcott
    122]Dillon
    123]Marshall
    124]Graziano
    125]Delaney
    126]Camacho
    127]Sharkey
    128]J.Lynch
    129]Kingpetch
    130]Barry
    131]Ad Wolgast
    132]Benvenuti
    133]Baer
    134]Jeanette
    135]Tendler
    136]Buff
    137]Coulon
    138]Chandler
    139]Holly
    140]DeJesus
    141]Young P.Jackson
    142]Winky Wright
    143]Mosley
    144]Morales
    145]Blackburn
    146]Griffo
    147]B.Lynch
    148]Kid Berg
    149]H.Johnson
    150]Mandell
    151]Escobar
    152]Freddie Steele
    153]Azumah Nelson
    154]Bud Taylor
    155]Accavallo
    156]Young Corbett 111
    157]Booker
    158]Bivins
    159]Moran
    160]Ohba
    161]H.Gonzalez
    162]Toney
    163]James J Corbett
    164]Patterson
    165]Kid McCoy
    166]Galaxy
    167]Freddie Miller
    168]Carbajal
    169]F.Burns
    170]Winstone
    171]Levinsky
    172]Fullmer
    173]McAuliffe
    174]McGuigan
    175]Pintor
    176]Coulon
    177]Pal Moore
    178]Becerra
    179]E.Pedrozsa
    180]Fenech
    181]Honeyghan
    182]Joey Archer
    183]Qawi
    184]John Henry Lewis
    185]Hamed
    186]Collins
    187]Saad Muhammed
    188]Perkins
    189]Schmeling
    190]Turpin
    191]Gushiken
    192]George Gardner
    193]Jung Koo Chang
    194]John L Sullivan
    195]Ritchie
    196]Kilbane
    197]Bowe
    198]Eubank
    199]Kid Lavigne
    200]Zivic
    201]Benn
    202]Terry Norris
    203]Midget Wolgast
    204]Lew Jenkins
    205]Maxim
    206]Darcey
    207]Freddie Mills
    208]Papp
    209]*********
    210]Percy Jones
    211]Battling Battalino
    212]Stansol
    213]Laciar
    214]Kid Norfolk
    215]Nunn
    216]Danny Lopez
    217]Tommy Burns
    218]Mormack
    219]Michalczewski
    220]Virgil Hill
    221]Tiozzo
    222]Carruthers
    223]Chalky Wright
    224]Young Corbett 11
    225]Papke
    226]George Godfrey
    227]Choynski
    228]Johansson
    229]Arcachakov
    230]Kid Kaplan
    231]Jackie Paterson
    232]Mark Johnson
    233]Cocoa Kid
    234]Arizmendi
    235]Young Jack Thompson
    236]Klaus
    237]Tancey Lee
    238]Sun Kil Moon
    239]Jeffra
    240]Chionoi
    241]Salica
    242]Marcias
    243]Bass
    244]Jackie Fields
    245]Tiger Fox
    246]Davey Moore
    247]Curry
    248]Dixie Kidd
    249]Zamora
    250]Mcvea
    251]Bushy Graham
    252]Burruni
    253]Carlos De Leon
    254]Halimi
    255]Norton
    256]Jack Root
    257]Young Stribbling
    258]Petrolle
    259]Billy Smith
    260]Dado
    261]Carter
    262]O'Dowd
    263]Wajima
    264]Chase
    265]Hatton
    266]Monaghan
    267]Gilberto Roman
    268]Saxton
    269]Escalera
    270]McGirt
    271]Tszyu
    272]Carlos Hernandez
    273]Canizales
    274]Goldstein
    275]Black Bill
    276]Rocky Kansas
    277]Frankie Fleming
    278]Cochrane
    279]Zaragoza
    280]Yarosz
    281]Myung-woo Yuh
    282]Lockridge
    283]Legra
    284]Pladner
    285]Berlenbach
    286]Ebihara
    287]Carattoli
    288]Palamino
    289]Marcel
    290]Valdez
    291]Olson
    292]Montanez
    293]Elky Clark
    294]Watanabe
    295]Rafael Marquez
    296]Mando Ramos
    297]Zapata
    298]Rose
    299]Ceferino Garcia
    300]Britt
    301]L.Espinosa
    302]Jeff Clark
    303]Hart
    304]Jose Torres
    305]Jeff Harding
    306]Herrera
    307]Kalambay
    308]Joyce
    309]Borkhorsov
    310]Castro
    311]Lora
    312]Coker
    313]Brian Mitchell
    314]Lou Bogash
    315]Siki
    316]Sugar Ramos
    317]Betulio Gonzalez
    318]Cuevas
    319]Efren Torres
    320]Coggi
    321]Carlos Teo Cruz
    322]Starling
    323]Rosario
    324]Kobayashi
    325]Johnny Nelson
    326]Ramey
    327]Castillo
    328]Bassett
    329]Meldrick Taylor
    330]Gerald McClellan
    331]Kid Aztec
    332]Thil
    333]Mazzinghi
    334]Frankie Randall
    335]Kalule
    336]Day
    337]McCrory
    338]Ishimatsu
    339]Sarron
    340]Junior Jones
    341]Aspostoli
    342]Lora
    343]Willard
    344]Farr
    345]Newsboy Brown
    346]Ottke
    347]Freitas
    348]Famechon
    349]Alvarez
    350]Brouilard
    351]Miske
    352]Austin
    353]Sharmba Mitchell
    354]Wonjongkam
    355]Tokuyama
    356]Tod Morgan
    357]Villaflor
    358]Niida
    359]Morel
    360]MA Gonzalez
    361]Cory Spinks
    362]Aguirre
    363]Salavarria
    364]Sorjaturong
    365]Wlad Klitschko
    366]Pastrano
    367]Milton McCrory
    368]Toweel
    369]kawashima
    370]Larios
    371]Vargas
    372]Bungu
    373]Pender
    374]Baxton
    375]McKinney
    376]Juan Diaz
    377]Mugabi
    378]Hasegawa
    379]Serrano
    380]Cohen
    381]Orlin Norris
    382]Jordan
    383]Callahan
    384]P.Jackson
    385]Fujii
    386]Shirai
    387]James J Braddock
    388]Jirov
    389]Bramble
    390]Davila
    391]Marino
    392]Shibata
    393]Lujan
    394]Paret
    395]Chris John
    396]Mamby
    397]Kessler
    398]Barkley
    399]Pavlik
    400]Jermain Taylor

    I went to update my top 200 because i realised after putting up a thread about Ken Buchanan, that i had left Ismael Laguna off the list, also i realised i had not treated Packey McFarland fairly in my original list, i originally placed him inside the top 100, but after reading about him, a top 50 place just above one of his victims Freddie Welsh would be fairer, the
    big loser in this reshuffle is Felix Trinidad who i had reservations about when i had him at #80 is now dropped down to #98.
    When i drew up a top 200, i had a short list of well over 300 boxers, so i added some more boxers to end up with a nice round number of 400.
    The top 100 is in some sort of order,places 100-200 is difficult to categorize and places 200-400 is virtually impossible to rank in order. I admit the lower down the list the less effort has gone into ranking the boxers, if i am missing somebody or i have a 'doubler' or there a rankings that are clearly wrong, let me know and i will change them, all comments welcome.
    {things were starting to get so desperate towards the end of the list that if i had a top 500, Antonio Tarver and William Joppy would have been in it.}
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I don't have time to give it a once over or the know how. But Hagler is far far far too high.

    Compare his 5 best wins to say Joness add that to the fact Jones went up from 154-HW in his career and I would say Jones has to be above. Regardless Hagler is way way too high.

    Edit: Calzaghe too
     
  3. stonerose

    stonerose Guest

    This is getting a little bit weird now.
     
  4. stonerose

    stonerose Guest

    Jonny Nelson 7 places below Kostya Tszyu :lol:
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    jofre- too high...never beaten an hall of famer...forget saldivar, he's past his prime
     
  7. stonerose

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    Glenn Mcrory 50 places better than Julian Jackson ?
    Is it a joke or not ?
     
  8. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its Milton not Glenn, you are right about Johnny though he is definately 40 or 50 places to high.
     
  9. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Johnny now dropped to a more reasonable level {should he drop further ?}
     
  10. stonerose

    stonerose Guest

    whatever, it's your list.
    can't believe you've sat there and done it to be honest. bit of a waste of time don't you think? what you gonna do with it?
     
  11. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People are always asking on this site, where does such and such a boxer rank ?, plus its nice for myself to try and rate boxers so i have some idea where they stand in comparison to one another.
     
  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hagler would take out roy jones small head the way he did with hearns or mugabi
     
  13. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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  14. Kaki

    Kaki Guest

    That's a huge list.:shock: How'd you go about creating the list?
     
  15. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You will proberbly not find a boxer listed by the International Boxing Research Organisation not on this list ? {they are boxing writers and historians}, apart from a top 20 and 10 just missing the cut, they only list boxers for the 8 traditional weight categories, as well as taking those lists into consideration i also looked at rings annual ratings and unless i have made a mistake i have included every fighter that has been their champion/#1 on more than one occasion,
    i have also picked lots of my own selections like Joey Archer, Gerald McClellan, Percy Jones and Nigel Benn most of them are not on any IBRO list and would barely feature in rings annual ratings.
    So although posters may disagree with my list, most of the 'all time greats' should be there and although the order is very open to debate it is not me a million miles away
    at the top end of the list, from IBRO's own list.