Wlad klitschko better than Ali!!!!!!

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  1. knn

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    This is an assessment by performance not by achievement.

    By performance Ibeabuchi is one of the best. Or Vitali. By achievements they are far from it.

    Rating by performance introduces purely subjective opinions about "good footwork" or "killer instinct" or.... "fluidity".
     
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    This thread is funny as hell!:lol: I know you laughed your ass when you saw the thread title! You gotta admit it:yep...Hell, I damn near spit my drink on the monitor when I read this!:rofl
     
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    So what you're trying to imply is that Wlad has acheived more than Ali...Wlad hasnt even unified the division yet!:verysad
     
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    Since when do you have to unify divisions to become better than Ali? Where does this idea come from?
     
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    The bottom line is, any reasonable human being who is a sports fan knows there is much, much more to sport than just numbers. Stats and formulas give a good blueprint or starting point, but in no way tell the whole story. For example in hockey, you can look at a players goals and assists, maybe even plus minus, to get an indication of his worth. But that doesn't begin to measure a players heart, worth to his team, does he make the players around him better, does he win the one-on-one battles all over the ice?

    same with boxing, or any other sport for that matter. Numbers cannot determine results, there are many, many other intangible factors at play.

    And I'm sorry, but only a fool who doesn't really understand sports would suggest otherwise.
     
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    you cannot be serious.
     
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    Vlad does not hit like Foreman. Foreman has much more committment to his punches. Vlad is heavy handed, but Foreman cranks up his punches more-especially his left hook.. Not even close.
     
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    You don't, you just have to be a hell of a lot better than Klitschko is. Seriously, if you believe that he's better than Ali or that his record is anywhere near as good then you can't be argued with. You don't watch boxing because you like boxing you watch boxing because you like Klitschko. A true fanatic, a Goebbles if you will.
     
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    Only if you disagree with the factual result.
    Now I never claimed that the last 10 fights of Ali tell the whole picture. But a record of 50+ fights, title wins, KOratio, WinFightRatio, QUality of opposition etc tell you 90% of the story. Everything else is subjective revisionism.
     
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    I'm not going to get invlved in the argument, for the reasons I aready stated. I could figure out a way to prove Albert Westphal was a better heavyweight than either of them if I thought for long enough about it. You adding up numbers to suit your own silly argument means absolutely nothing.
     
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    The record proves you wrong. Both have the same KOratio in the same round.
     
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    Ali's record is deadly serious.
     
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    :-( WOW! You clearly dont know what the **** you're talking about!:verysad
     
  15. mrbassie

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    I've heard it, it's nowhere near as good as Ben. E. King's original.