Haye is losing credibility

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by THE BLADE, Feb 19, 2009.


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  1. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patschHe doesn't have to and they are not being fair.

    The Champ is been a Chump....
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye should fight Povetkin.
     
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  3. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like I said, it is much more likely that Haye's promoter overprized Haye. But that is not the point anyway.

    Of course Haye does not have to accept those conditions. This is no problem for Wlad as he will just go forward with the Areola and face Haye later if he is actuall still around. Wlad is the champ, it is Haye who wants to be the champ and face the man.

    How does this look to the objective fan? haye did not want to face Wlad (though he screamed for it for a year), toney or rahman. But of course in your eyes haye can't be blamed for it...
     
    THE BLADE, Feb 20, 2009
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  4. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye wants the fight but to get it he has to sell his soul.....it's not about purse spilt.
     
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  5. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you know, then?

    Wlad's camp has a reputation of being fair during negotiations. Haye already backed out of the Toney and Rahman fights. And why would Wlad do such a thing anyway, he is certainly not afraid of Haye. It just makes no sense at all.
     
    THE BLADE, Feb 20, 2009
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    :?

    You mean apart from when he fought in the US and fought Mormeck in France, right?

    Always amuses when people can't get the simple facts in their 'arguments' right....
     
    Cobbler, Feb 20, 2009
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  7. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good
     
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Then Haye can not take the fight and go out there and actually have to fight some legit contenders to get a Mandatory spot for one of the belts.

    OR

    He can take his FREE shot at a unified Heavyweight titleholder and if he wins HUGE paydays will follow.

    Why is this so hard for the nuthuggers to understand?

    If Haye does not take this fight it will be almost 2 years before he will have the opportunity again.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Feb 20, 2009
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  9. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just off topic
    Haye is not a big draw outside the UK, that is the point here my friend.
     
    THE BLADE, Feb 20, 2009
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  10. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The scenario of Haye waiting 2 more years could indeed occur. But it is also possible that Haye gets a title shot when beating Povetkin, Ibrahimigov or Toney as the heavyweight picture is very sad right now.
    It also depends on Wlad. If Haye pissed Wlad off , the WLad could play a waiting game with Haye if Haye does not become mandatory by winning an eliminator.
     
    THE BLADE, Feb 20, 2009
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  11. Guy

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    For the K twins your right, when Haye KTFO Wlad he should be in control of his own destiny.

    Not the man on the floor with the Glass Jaw

    I just put that in to get you hot Rico:thumbsup
     
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  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Haye will have to win 2 fights to get into a Mandatory shot right now. All of the belts are already backlogged with Mandatory defenses.

    At the rate that Haye fights it would be 2 years at the earliest before he gets his shot.

    I do not even think he would make it that far if he were forced to fight 2 top 10 heavyweights. I think he would lose one of those fights.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Feb 20, 2009
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  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    well let's let Haye fight some contenders to get into a Mandatory posistion then.

    It won't happen because his Glass Jaw will fail him when he is forced to fight a legit Heavyweight. The Barrett fight was a complete farce. Plus, Glass Jaw Wlad had already steamrolled Barrett 8 years previous.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Feb 20, 2009
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  14. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    very possible, i agree.
     
    THE BLADE, Feb 20, 2009
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  15. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Wlad should fight a bum just like the other one*Yawn

    As boxing fans you should be willing on a half decent match up in the boring as **** HW division.

    Haye was the undisputed cruiser champ, he's earn't his spurs in the sport and shouldn't get treated like a serf just because he wants to fight the best in the division.

    Wlad could win but Haye 'could' win also.

    Perfect
     
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