Who is higher all time p4p, trinidad or calzage?

I will vote i promise.
I would much prefer to watch tito and think he was/is a very good fighter.I hate to say it though im going to vote for Joe,he won all his most important fights and although the opposition wasnt always the best he was champ and best in his division for a long time.

 

Agreed:good

 

i had tito at 74 while calzaghe is at 87th

 

calzaghe ducked p4p elite during his prime...tarver, taylor, jones, hopkins...he is ranked lower than this fighters before but he never issued a challenged to this guy...he did not seek for greatness, greatness seeks him...

 

Calzaghe is totally superior in hand speed, ring generalship, stamina, foot speed, etc., that Tito, no contest.

 

^^^but tito accomplished more and has better resume

 

calzaghe will be talked about for years to come,but in fifty years time your great grand kids will be saying "tito who?"
guaranteed.
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exactly what i said in this thread..calzaghe is timeless..just as galaxy,wilde and jofre...they have been the best in their division for a long years..

but as of now, tito is still 15-20 spots higher than calzaghe

 

Really? Is he that big in Europe because NO ONE in America has even ****ing heard of the dude. Whereas, Trinidad is widely acclaimed.

You must mean "in fifty years Welsh kids will be talking about Joe".

 

Because fighters are American and have HBO specials, it doesn't make them better, Peter Malfredo is a well known American boxer because he has been on big brother or something.

 

^^^calzaghe is the standard for which very 168 great would be compared

 

No, of course not. Fighting elite fighters in their prime, moving up in weight and fighting non-geriatrics, not being protected and only fighting boxers AFTER they have lost, been exposed, or the way to beat them has been demonstrated by others are signs you should focus on. One is an ATG the other is Joe Calzaghe. Peter Manfredo is ****ing nobody.

 

can't really argue with that because he has beat 6 of the former champion. well it's between him and Sugar Ray Leonard.

 

I know Calzaghe has had a few dody fights but at the end of the day he has beaten thesen super middleweight or middle weight champions.

Kessler
RJJ
Lacy
Mitchel
Ried
Woodhall
Chris Eubank
Veit, Brewer (interim)

and

Bhop LHW champion

 

I believe Tito has a better record. But if they had ever fought, I say Calzaghe outsmarts him. And Im Puerto Rican decent so you guys can't say Im biased, lol.